> i wanted to know if i >needed a permit to bring some fish from him (which i assume are considered to >be captive bred, not wild collected, even if they are, since i'm buying from a >"store" not catching them myself). You will need a Fish and Wildlife permit regardless. There is a chance that if you bring just a few pairs (3 or 4) customs will not report to F & W when you enter the U.S. but be prepared to leave the fish at the airport. If that happens, act as if you don't know you did something wrong and beg and beg and beg. I also believe that you will need a Certificado Zoosanitario to get the fish out of Brasil. Good luck. Julio ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!