I have sp aff. cruzi, they too have a very sharp snout. I understand that there is also a lot of colour variations among cruzi. Just a guess, Jason ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!