> Does anyone know know if it is normal for M. altispinosa to excavate > two inch deep nests- I have a pair that finally spawned after about > two years-I had given up on them and started buying Apistos about a > year ago(the reason why I am on the list now)- These fish are quite > the diggers- my plant tank looks like it went through a miniature > Blitzkrieg. Cory, this is very normal for the M. altispinosa. They are not cave spawners but open pit spawners. Mine also took 2 years before ready for spawning. I no longer have any since I sold the last of the 4th generation a couple months ago. The biggest thing I found out about spawning them is they do not like bright light over their tank. At least this has been my experience with keeping and breeding them. I hope this helps. Kaycy http://www.calweb.com/users/d/djhanson/index.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!