Ade et. al. Both sides of the argument have valid points. IMO, as long as the accused is a list member, complaints should not only be acceptable but encouraged here. This offers the possibility for a response by the accused, while at the same time uncover those individuals praying on unsuspecting hobbyists. Always ask and check for references before mail ordering from anyone. My dos centavos, Julio ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!