Hello All I was wondering if any one out there could give me a little info on any special tricks that might help me to get my Taeniatus to spawn. I have 4 pairs of Taeniatus Kienke and 1 pair of Taeniatus Moliwe. 2 pairs of the Taeniatus Kienke have spawned in the past and so have the Moliwe, but it's been over 2 months for the Moliwe and 1 pair of Kienke since they spawned last. All pairs are less then a year and a half old, so I don't think it is old age. The pH in all tanks is around 6.7 and hardness is 60ppm. The fish are fed a variety of live and prepared foods which are the same foods I always use and which they've eaten when they spawned in the past. Temperature is around 78 F. Regular water changes of 20% weekly and all are housed in either 10 or 15 gallon tanks with only one pair per tank. This is my usual set up for Apistos or West Africans. Patience I know is the key, but sometimes there are ways to "Trigger" pairs to spawn. I do water changes when I know the weather outside is likely to change, hoping barometer changes with water changes might be the trick. Any suggestions would be appreciated. My apistos are spawning like crazy but I can't convince the West Africans to do so. Thanks John ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!