A while back there were a number of postings re: obtainability of Baensch books. On the website for Aquatic Ecosystems Inc. there is even the volume 4 Baensch Atlas available. Hard and soft cover. 1216 pages. $31.25 US. I find this a bit odd given that according to information I have this is not supposed to be out until this summer. However, the other volumes are available for sure. So, if Amazon.com doesn't have them at a convenient time, maybe this place will get them out faster. http://www.aquaticeco.com/ There's all kinds of cool stuff at this site. If only I had the $$$$$$$!!!!!!! They've got a few books on fish diseases etc. as well. G. Kadar ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@majordomo.pobox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@majordomo.pobox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!