Andrew,I have a bunch of these fish,30-40.The breeders are fantstic.It is fast becoming one of my favorite apistos.If you think the blue form is gorgeous,wait till you see the red form.They are very easy to spawn also and the best part is you will get both color forms in one spawn. Vern ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!