Holy smithereens Batman You never told us what fish had spawned, but congratulations anyways. As to how long before they're big enough to take to a shop, with lots of water changes 5 ot 6 months and that's with lots of feeding too. John ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!