I'm a HUGE Vibragrow (the variety marked "for cichlids under four inches," of course) fan. I've fed it to borelli and caucatoides, both species had good color and growth. Now I'm trying it on rams. Disclaimer: I have never tried to spawn these fish. I don't know their nutritional needs during the spawning period. Micah Keith Monroe mkmonroe1@juno.com Crux Sacra sit mihi lux. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!