Of course I am referring to taping the ice bag to the underside of the styro lid! The less often you open the styro the less stress your fish will experience as they associate darkness with safety. Be good to yourself, Brett ___________________________ Brett Kemker, Ph.D. Dept. of Communication Disorders The Florida State University Tallahassee, Fl. 32306-1200 Ph:850.644.2238 Fax:850.644.8994 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!