Mike Jacobs writes: > Bingo Bob............how dark is that reptile sand and will it affect the pH > at all? Great idea! Expensive??? or just like any other sand? Brand > names.....or should we on the list??? It is black, epoxy-coated, very fine aquarium gravel. It is the size of coarse sand and is available wherever fine desert lizards are sold. It is neutral chemically because of the epoxy coating. Be careful. There are some reptile sands that are pure CaCO3, and these will dissolve with all the expected side effects. Read the labels. It is about the same price per five-pound bag as aquarium gravel, but it has a much lower volume because of the grain size. 15 lbs works well in a ten-gallon tank, a 15-long will need a little over 20 lbs. It seems to also work well as a substrate for some varieties of Cryptocorynes, and the fish-pooh will quickly provide the basis for a good dutch-style plant tank. It is also safe for Corydoras barbels. Another option is silicon carbide. It is cheaper if you can find it locally, but I would have to ship it in 50 lbs at a time from Chicago to Boise, as I haven't found a closer source. It is sold as a sand-blasting substrate, and is also black and chemically neutral. It's the same stuff that is used on most sandpaper. Bob Dixon ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!