Mike and all, Where do we think the diverse Apisto fauna got its start? How old do we think the lineage is? What are the most ancestral forms? Is there a good phylogeny worked out? Steven J. Waldron http://WWW.ANURA.ORG "Natural History, Captive Husbandry, Conservation and Biophilia of Tropical Frogs" ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!