Folks, I know this thread has quite a bit of interest. But talking about making subspecies of the human races, lets drop it and get back to Apistos. The philosophical discussions can go off list if you choose, they don't belong here. You are getting into touchy areas we don't need to go into on a fish forum. John Wubbolt ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!