> Apisto agassizii Rio Tefe 2 is way to rare& expensive to put in Bromoseltzer. >Plus it took me over 2 years to find one > >George I totally agree with you. I'm sorry that your fish is not well. The only thing I have found that consistently keeps fish healthy is large water changes on a regular basis. Keep the nitrates and phosphates absolutely as low as possible. A lot of times, these poor wee creatures have been through so much stress from shipping etc. that their immune systems are shot. I rarely lose fish due to disease. But then, I change at least 50 percent of the water per tank per week and all the tanks are heavily planted. This borellii was a 'one off' sort of case. I don't think it was just blind luck that the treatment worked. But why, is a mystery. Maybe in a way it's like a salt bath with lots of alkali. I have no idea. It doesn't kill the fish though, if you don't leave it in there too long. That's at least a plus. Good luck Gabi Kadar ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the apistogramma mailing list, apisto@listbox.com. For instructions on how to subscribe or unsubscribe or get help, email apisto-request@listbox.com. Search http://altavista.digital.com for "Apistogramma Mailing List Archives"!