LOL! Here I was worrying about a meeting at the end of this month. Commuting to the East side by bus stinks, so I'd better have my truck back LONG before Aug. Thanks for the reminder. Laurie -----Original Message----- From: Kathy Olson [SMTP:kathy@thekrib.com] Sent: Sunday, June 20, 1999 5:50 PM To: Laurie Hughes Subject: RE: exotic loach in Marysville (fwd) Laurie, The next board meeting isn't until the end of august.....so I hope your truck is fixed by then :) Kathy On Sun, 20 Jun 1999, Laurie Hughes wrote: > I would love to go, but I am also going to be out of town those dates. I'm > headed to hot, hot Phoenix on Wed thru the weekend. > > Also, doubt that I can make the next board meeting. My truck is in the shop, > waiting for a new engine. Please send me an update after? > > Thanks, > Laurie > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Erik Olson [SMTP:erik@thekrib.com] > Sent: Saturday, June 19, 1999 9:02 AM > To: gsas-board@gsas.org > Subject: exotic loach in Marysville (fwd) > > Kathy & I will be gone during this time, but maybe you guys... > > - Erik > > PS: Two new mailing lists created: gsas-announce and gsas-member. I'm > working on making the web archives work so folks can look up old messages > too. I'll probably spam the database's e-mail addresses and put an > announcement on the web site soon. > > -- > Erik Olson > erik at thekrib dot com > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Sat, 19 Jun 1999 08:06:42 -0700 > From: Jay DeLong <thirdwind@att.net> > To: Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com> > Subject: exotic loach in Marysville > > Hi Erik. In case you or anyone else at GSAS might be interested, here's > something that happened last week. I'll include my original post instead of > typing everything again. The date for the search is next Saturday June 26 > (you'll see what I mean from the attached email). And also check out > http://home.att.net/~thirdwind/WantedLoach.htm for a bit of fun. A photo of > the loach is at http://home.att.net/~thirdwind/aquariumfish.htm. It has > been sent to the curator of the UW fish collection for ID and as a voucher > specimen. > > Feel free to join us in the search. It should last from 1-5 PM or so, and > will be hard, hot and dirty work. On top of that, our greatest success will > be in NOT finding any more loaches! > > Jay DeLong > > ------------------------------------ > > Original message: > > I got a call today from Cliff Bengston, a hatchery manager who found a fish > he didn't recognize. He described it to me like this: "It's about 7 inches > long, shaped like a gunnel and it has 4 barbels". All I could think was > loach. I told him that what he has wasn't native, but that reproducing > populations of weather loaches have been found in several states, including > Oregon and Idaho. I told him they've been found in areas of still water > with mud substrate in Oregon (from a conversation with Dan Logan--the person > who found it in Oregon). Cliff said the fish was in a settling pond in > several inches of silt. Boy was I glad when he said "I think someone should > be told about this. Do you want to take care of it for me?" So I meet him > halfway and got the fish. Sure enough it was a loach of some kind, and > still alive (and now in my aquarium). I believe it's the Chinese > Weatherfish Misgurnus mizoepis. Check out the picture I found at Loaches > On-Line at http://aquaweb.pair.com/LOACH/misgurnus_mizoepis.shtml. I'll get > back to you when I get a positive ID. > > Now I'm curious if there are others in the area. If so, this will be a > first for Washington, but there's a possibility it was a lone aquarium > release. Only one way to find out. I asked Cliff if he'd like to find out > if there was a population of them in the creek, and I offered the help of > NANFA members to conduct such a search. He said he'd be grateful for any > help. According to one paper (Logan, Daniel J., E.L. Bibles and D.F. > Markle. 1996. Recent Collections of Exotic Aquarium Fishes in the > Freshwaters of Oregon and Thermal Tolerance of Oriental Weatherfish and > Pirapatinga. 1996. California Fish and Game 82(2):66-80), weatherfish could > be predators on native fishes or parasite and disease vectors. Cliff was > especially concerned about the disease issue. > > So, Oregon and Washington NANFA members, do you want to get together for a > weatherfish search day? We'd be going to Tulalip Creek, just north of > Everett, on the Tulalip Indian reservation? This will be a great > opportunity for us. > > Jay >