RE: Endler's livebearers

[Kathy Olson <kathy@thekrib.com>]

yeah it is Mg2CO3, but close enough....and of course
Ca(CO2)(with various numerals added as well as subscripts)

Kathy


On Thu, 11 Oct 2001, Kathy Olson wrote:

> You are awesome, thanks!!
> 
> 
> On Thu, 11 Oct 2001, DonaldR wrote:
> 
> > I found an old post from Erik about this.  He referred
> > me to All World Scientific in Lynwood for MgSCO, etc.
> > -Don Rudee
> > 
> > --- Kathy Olson <kathy@thekrib.com> wrote:
> > > A chemical supply place in Lynnwood, I don't recall
> > > the name, I will have
> > > to ask Erik, or hit the phone book!!
> > > 
> > > Kathy
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Thu, 11 Oct 2001, Paul M. Carey wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Kathy,
> > > > 
> > > > where do you get the Mag and Calc carbonate at?
> > > > how much does it run you?
> > > > 
> > > > Paul
> > > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-gsas-board@thekrib.com
> > > > [mailto:owner-gsas-board@thekrib.com]On Behalf Of
> > > Kathy Olson
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 10:03 PM
> > > > To: gsas-board@thekrib.com
> > > > Subject: RE: Endler's livebearers
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks, I was wondering how you did things.
> > > > 
> > > > For us, I have So. Americans, so they like soft
> > > water, for those I add
> > > > nothing.  I am going for very soft water that
> > > makes the snails lose their
> > > > shells.  when the plants turn white too...then I
> > > may add something.
> > > > 
> > > > For the lake Tanganykians I add magnesium and
> > > calcium carbonate.  The
> > > > enders I occasionally add salt as well as the
> > > calcium carbonate (just a
> > > > bit less than I do the Lake Tang. fish).
> > > > 
> > > > I discovered with some Pelvicachromis species they
> > > did a little better
> > > > with a touch of salt, so occasionally I added a
> > > little bit.
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > 
> > > > Kathy
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On Wed, 10 Oct 2001, Paul M. Carey wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Kathy,
> > > > >
> > > > > I use Bicarb Soda in all my tanks.  I mainly use
> > > it to help buffer water
> > > > and
> > > > > to help with maintaining the PH.  I have not had
> > > a problem with ph
> > > > dropping
> > > > > or anything but I think that has a lot to do
> > > with filtration in general.
> > > > >
> > > > > I use one tea spoon / 10 gals  and have found it
> > > to work quite well for us
> > > > > in the last two years.
> > > > >
> > > > > I also use Salt as well in the tank to keep the
> > > GH up.
> > > > > Epsom's work well.  I don't filter with carbon
> > > on much of anything except
> > > > > the eclipse which the Endlers are housed in and
> > > my Quarantine tank.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have used crushed coral substrate but it
> > > eventually started to break
> > > > down
> > > > > and started to soften my water.  this was before
> > > I used Bicarb soda.  I
> > > > have
> > > > > had some strange experiences however and by no
> > > means see this as a normal
> > > > > event unless someone else can say that they had
> > > similar happen to them?
> > > > >
> > > > > I do frequent water changes weekly basis, about
> > > 10 to 20 % in all my
> > > > tanks.
> > > > > when I do them I always add bicarb soda.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hopefully that will be helpful?
> > > > >
> > > > > Paul
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: owner-gsas-board@thekrib.com
> > > > > [mailto:owner-gsas-board@thekrib.com]On Behalf
> > > Of Kathy Olson
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 9:15 AM
> > > > > To: gsas-board@thekrib.com
> > > > > Subject: Endler's livebearers
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Paul,
> > > > >
> > > > > We had to leave pretty quick last night, but I
> > > wanted to hear how you
> > > > > harden the water for your Endler's livebearers. 
> > > I heard about adding
> > > > > Sodium Bicarbonate but not the ratio.
> > > > >
> > > > > I thought it would be good for everyone (myself
> > > included) to hear an
> > > > > alternative way to harden the water.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > Kathy
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
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