On Thu, 1 May 2003, Rick Rose wrote: > 1) Should the Board establish attendance (and/or other > requirements) to be imposed on its own members in order to "remain as a > board member"? While I beleive it is valid (but not necessary) to have the OPTION of revoking the status of a board member, I feel very strongly that this should not be implemented as an "automatic" rule that kicks in after N missed meetings. The benefits I see from such a rule are that it keeps the books cleaner, and it makes things easier on the president and other board members (who now do not have the responsibility of contacting the wayward board member). But the drawbacks are great: First there is a lack of dignity for the person involved; there is no attempt to first find out WHY they are not attending; they are treated like children with "strikes" against them shown in meeting minutes. While some see no insult in that, others (such as myself) do. With "strikes" against me, I am not encouraged to come back and participate. Third, there is no accounting for WHY they may have missed the meetings, and as demonstrated this year, seemingly no attempt to find out. Second point: what is the damage of having an inactive board member still listed? I do not see any. Their name stays on the list until the end of the year, and then presumably they don't get re-elected. Another point I've been trying to make (and perhaps it is only a side issue, so feel free to disregard in this forum) is that it is not clear to me how important attendance IS at board meetings. My experience has been over the past few years that it is easier to get input and a quorum on issues through e-mail forums such as these than at the board meetings themselves. One can review the issues carefully, and compose an answer at their leisure that says exactly what they want. Oftentimes I find that issues get "ramrodded" through at the board meetings without even time to discuss or vote on them. Other issues are discussed ad-nauseum and take up (IMHO) far too much time at the board meetings, and I'd prefer to just skim over and vote yes or no. Finally, a paradox I've noticed: how do we now rectify some of the needs for "special" board members such as (apparently?) the newsletter editor, with such a hardfast rule? If the newsletter editor doesn't need to be at board meetings because they are the newsletter editor (arguably the person who's, in the best of all possible worlds, the most on top of what's going on, because they're the liaison to the general membership every month), why do the other board members have this rule? Now, I'll go with that "be positive" suggestion... what I *think* should be the policy for board membership is this: if a board member is doing actual DAMAGE to the club by non-attendance or other means, they should be asked first if they want to continue on the board. "Hi John, you haven't been at the last few board meetings, and you're supposed to have planned all the speakers for the next year. Are you sure you want to keep doing this, or should we try and find someone else?" The next phase would be to transfer their responsibilities to another, more active, member. When I was president, this ALWAYS worked. In fact, most people were real polite about resigning themselves in advance due to other committments. > 2) How can we improve participation from the general > membership? Rick's right, this is a totally separate and unrelated topic, should have been in a separate e-mail "forum" after the first one is completed. I have found the best way to get participation has been to involve the membership in the activities. The member profile column, new members list, and even just walking up to people at the meetings helps a lot to this end. Asking a member to host the board meeting/open fishroom is always succesful. I guess this is tangentially related to the first topic, in that I beleive you'll get more participation from non-board-members by making it easier and more fun to be on the board, or even if not on the board, allowing folks to have something they 'do' for the club without a lot of interference, rules, and general red tape. > 3) Suggestions for holding general elections for board > members - again, maybe this is a mute point since we've found the bylaws > (or maybe not?) Let's see what comes of it. This should be a moot point, and/or separate discussion. traditionally, nominations from the general membership are held in may, and elections held in June. We discussed at a board meeting a while back of putting them off until the fall, because it would end the problem of changing over a regime during the summer break, and historically the fall tends to be a bit slower than the spring for the club; a perfect time to elect and welcome in a new set of board members (I think the Christmas party is a good day to do the changeover, what with it being a laid-back "fun and distractions" meeting to begin with). The absolute worst experience I had with elections, and probably what we essentially stopped doing them, was trying to coordinate them (AND the nominations which had been blown off the previous month) the same night as a big national speaker. It just eats into the time people would prefer seeing what they came for. OK, 'nuff said. I'm done. - Erik -- Erik Olson erik at thekrib dot com ------------------ To unsubscribe from this list, e-mail majordomo@thekrib.com with "unsubscribe gsas-board" in the body of the message. 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