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Re: [GSAS-board] FW: What About Bob, the giant clown loach?



Well, then I am very glad that you are happy with your purchase. I wish you 
success with your next aquarium project.

Sandu
www.AquaDiscovery.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul M. Wallace" <pwallace@u.washington.edu>
To: "GSAS board members and alumni" <gsas-board@thekrib.com>
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: [GSAS-board] FW: What About Bob, the giant clown loach?


> Sandu:
>
> My surprise was quite the contrary as I won a 205 last year and picked up 
> Phil's 304 earlier in the Auction.  I was lamenting having ANOTHER filter 
> type to support so I actually like the 404 and have spare sponges/media. 
> I was hoping to win the 305 in the raffle...
>
> I like the 'random' that happens at auctions.  (but i don't like the Bobs)
>
> I once had a 304 from Susan that through my fault, and my fault alone, 
> flooded the fish room.  It went to Jack whom rebuilt it and put it on the 
> Salmon tanks.
>
> -Paul
>
> On Mon, 20 Apr 2009, simion wrote:
>
>> Hi Paul,
>>
>> The fluval filter was mine. Indeed, the box was of a rena filter, but on 
>> the
>> pink sticky note I specifically wrote "Fluval filter." I was outside when
>> the filter was sold, and when I came back my son, Josh, told me that "our
>> filter got sold."  I had absolutely no idea that it wasn't mentioned what 
>> it
>> was written on the label - if I would have been in the room, I would have
>> said something about it. I can either return your money or, if you wish 
>> to
>> keep the Fluval 404 filter, I can give you an extra identical filter at 
>> no
>> charge. The second filter works just fine, but has a plastic part that 
>> needs
>> to be replaced, and I had no time to order that. If you want it, you can
>> have it. I am sorry if I caused any inconvenience - totally 
>> unintentional.
>> Please let me know your decision on this matter. Thank you.
>>
>> Sandu
>> www.AquaDiscovery.com
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Paul M. Wallace" <pwallace@u.washington.edu>
>> To: "GSAS board members and alumni" <gsas-board@thekrib.com>
>> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 10:33 AM
>> Subject: Re: [GSAS-board] FW: What About Bob, the giant clown loach?
>>
>>
>>> Phil:
>>> In light of the circumstances I favor giving back the club split now
>>> ($28).  The other part ($42) was returned to you.  I have some ideas on
>>> how to make this whole again but I would rather discuss at the board
>>> meeting.
>>>
>>> (the 'rena X3' I bought was a 'Fluval 404')
>>>
>>> -Paul
>>>
>>> On Mon, 20 Apr 2009, Phil Lacefield Jr. wrote:
>>>
>>>> Just so you know, I'm happy to give the guy his money back, if that's
>>>> what
>>>> we need to do (or at least my portion of it anyway.)  I did my best to
>>>> keep
>>>> Bob going, but in the end you're right, too many factors weighed 
>>>> against
>>>> him.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Phil
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: gsas-board-bounces@thekrib.com
>>>> [mailto:gsas-board-bounces@thekrib.com]
>>>> On Behalf Of Margaret Cashman
>>>> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2009 10:10 AM
>>>> To: GSAS board members and alumni
>>>> Subject: Re: [GSAS-board] FW: What About Bob, the giant clown loach?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dear GSAS'ers,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am inclined to think we should find a way to refund to the buyer, 
>>>> Mike,
>>>> the purchase cost of $70 and then have the sale annulled (the seller
>>>> doesn't
>>>> make $ and the club doesn't make $). This was an unusual situation, and
>>>> Bob
>>>> looked pretty moribund while still at SPU. The cold, the stress, etc.
>>>> were
>>>> too much.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I had won the bid, but then Mike (one of the other bidders) came up to 
>>>> me
>>>> and talked about his 600-gallon tank replete with clown loaches which
>>>> allegedly had bred, sans artificial hormones, once already. I felt my
>>>> 180-gallon clown loach spa was not as good a spot for Bob, whom I 
>>>> assumed
>>>> was healthy and ready to rumble, so with considerable regret I agreed 
>>>> to
>>>> shift off so that Mike could acquire him from the auction for the 
>>>> winning
>>>> price. We settled this before checking out, so Mike was the owner. Then
>>>> Mike
>>>> and Phil went over to Bob's bucket. Oooh. Bob did not look in the mood
>>>> for
>>>> petting or, well, anything. His tail fin was twitching a bit but he did
>>>> not
>>>> look, um, healthy. So I left the premises with hopes for Bob's recovery
>>>> but
>>>> also one of the better fish auction stories. I truly am sorry that Bob
>>>> did
>>>> not make it -- he was a spectacular fish. But Mike and I made the shift
>>>> of
>>>> winning bidder before anyone knew about Bob's death spiral and also
>>>> before
>>>> checkout.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Margie C.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Seattle_Aquarist
>>>> <Seattle_Aquarist@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Phil,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> OK, since Margie isn't involved, as the seller how would you suggest it
>>>> be
>>>> fairly handled?  Technically Mike bought loach from "The Club", the 
>>>> other
>>>> choice would be have a board member contact Mike and make the decision.
>>>> If
>>>> there are any precedents that older member may have knowledge of maybe
>>>> they
>>>> can provide some suggestions
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Roy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  _____
>>>>
>>>> From: gsas-board-bounces@thekrib.com
>>>> [mailto:gsas-board-bounces@thekrib.com]
>>>> On Behalf Of Phil Lacefield Jr.
>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 3:17 PM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> To: 'GSAS board members and alumni'
>>>>
>>>> Subject: Re: [GSAS-board] FW: BOB the giant loach
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Just so I have this clear, you auctioned the Clown Loach and Margie
>>>> purchased it.  The club got 40% and you received 60%.  Margie then sold
>>>> the
>>>> loach to Mike as a separate private transaction.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Not exactly.  Margie and Mike switched the purchase at the time they
>>>> checked
>>>> out, so that it didn't ever show up on her ticket, only his.  Margie
>>>> doesn't
>>>> have a stake in this one.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Phil
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: Seattle_Aquarist
>>>>
>>>> To: 'GSAS board members and alumni'
>>>>
>>>> Sent: Sun Apr 19 12:00:55 2009
>>>>
>>>> Subject: Re: [GSAS-board] FW: BOB the giant loach
>>>>
>>>> Hi Phil,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I agree it is a tough break, I do feel badly for the guy.  Just so I 
>>>> have
>>>> this clear, you auctioned the Clown Loach and Margie purchased it.  The
>>>> club
>>>> got 40% and you received 60%.  Margie then sold the loach to Mike as a
>>>> separate private transaction.  The loach died on the trip home.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think the club is a smaller player in this than Margie and yourself. 
>>>> I
>>>> would like to hear Margie and your views and suggestions for resolving
>>>> it.
>>>> I would hope that we would all want to see this resolved fairly; how
>>>> would
>>>> we like to be dealt with if we were Mike?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Roy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Margie Cashman, M.D.
>>>> Child & Adolescent Psychiatry, General Psychiatry, Sleep Disorders
>>>> Medicine
>>>> 2302 24th Ave. E., Suite B
>>>> Seattle, WA  98112-2607
>>>> Phone (206) 568-7497
>>>> Fax (206) 568-7476
>>>> url  http://www.doctorcashman.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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