Re: bolbitis heudelotii (plant) problem

[Kate Breimayer <kate@munat.com>]

Water has been changed, my bolbitis is also dying in an unsalted 
unmedicated tank in my living room. I found a post on the Krib about a 
virus or other plant disease, am wondering if that is the problem. 
Symptoms are the same. Frankly I give up. The rain is coming in my 
basement and my fish/bird room is flooding, I am selling out my birds 
which I just got a little bit ago at a loss of course, and am looking at 
closing the fishroom if it doesn't stop because it's not safe having all 
this water with my unsafe assemblage of electrical cords/extension 
cords/metal shelving and metal frame tanks. Not looking good here at the 
ol homestead...
I got the flubendazole because I bought some eggs of nothobranchius 
killies that were on peat, the seller had a disease in his fishroom that 
traveled with the peat and was killing the babies. So I tried the 
flubendazole plus daily water changes (it is velvet) I have been able to 
eliminate the symptoms in most of the nothos but not one tank... I don't 
sell nothos and all the tanks are under quarantine so don't worry, the 
fish I am sending to the meeting are not from this batch and have not 
been contaminated. :)
We are having record rains so I am hoping this basement flooding thing 
is temporary. If not... lots of fish stuff will be available soon, cheap.
Kate B
Oly WA

Hess, Clay A wrote:

> Kate,
>
> Whoa!!.....Never heard of flubendazole....sounds like it should be a disease!  What is it used for?  Is it a Hydra medication?  I hope your plants come back around for you.  Have you changed the water since this happened and eliminated most of the medications you were using in the tanks?
>
> Clay
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kate Breimayer [mailto:kate@munat.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 4:28 PM
> To: gsas-member@thekrib.com
> Subject: Re: bolbitis heudelotii (plant) problem
>
>
> It was the mother plant for a bunch of them, It was doing fine for 
> probably a year in my tanks, and the person I got the original cutting 
> from had hers a year. That is what is so frustrating. Grew beautifully 
> and madly for so long and then bam, it's rotting, and it's doing so in 
> tanks at different temps with different light, CO2, and stocking levels 
> that aren't even in the same room. Granted I let the CO2 and fertilizer 
> slide lately due to migraines followed by surgery but still, it grew 
> great before I started using CO2 and fertilizer. That additional salt 
> theory sounds kind of plausible though, and maybe I medicated and forgot 
> about it. I was using meds for hydra, now that I recall, that would be 
> formaldehyde with copper, neither is good for plants is it? Stupid 
> hydra. At least that's gone for now. Now have flubendazole for fighting 
> hydra, anyone know if that is bad for plants?
> Thanks,
> Kate
>
> throatwarbler mangrove wrote:
>
>  
>
> > FWIW, I could never get this plant to establish in my
> > old fishroom. My water was very hard (so, anubias,
> > african cichlids and mexican livebearers loved it).
> > Was this an attempt to start the plant or was it
> > established? I think I have seen bolbitis grown out of
> > water and sold to the aquatic trade (much like those
> > little pine-tree plants). Plants started this way
> > generally have a hard time establishing themselves
> > when submerged.
> >
> > Matt
> > --- "Hess, Clay A" <clay.a.hess@Boeing.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >    
> >
> > > Hi Kate,
> > >
> > > Have you treated your water for any type of diseases
> > > of late?  I treated my tank for parasites awhile
> > > back and had a similar issue with my java fern.  I
> > > was using formaldahyde and found my plants did not
> > > appreciate that at all. The leaves turned black
> > > slowly and then broke loose of the main root and
> > > floated away. Just a thought.  And, I do not think
> > > that this is Off Topic for this list at all.  In
> > > fact, I think this is a great item for the list.
> > >
> > > Clay
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: June Olberding [mailto:jdolb1@comcast.net]
> > > Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2003 9:29 AM
> > > To: gsas-member@thekrib.com
> > > Subject: Re: bolbitis heudelotii (plant) problem
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Kate,
> > > I haven't had much experience with bolbitis. I know
> > > it doesn't seem to like
> > > really high light environments.  I know you are not
> > > running high light
> > > tanks. You keep most of your water pretty soft. I
> > > don't know if that may be
> > > a problem. Mine is in a livebearer tank with KH of
> > > 4-5 and GH of 5-10. It
> > > does well in that environment which has about 2
> > > watts /gal of shop light. It
> > > took a long time to establish and occasionally will
> > > have a section go black
> > > and fall away. Thought that to be normal or that I
> > > had damaged leaf working
> > > in tank. This may be inaccurate but I think it
> > > doesn't like to be disturbed
> > > or moved to new locations. AFA nutrients, I do run
> > > my tanks rather rich.
> > > Also you might try running a little DIY CO2 for it.
> > > Generally folks don't
> > > think of CO2 need in low light plant tanks, but has
> > > been my experience that
> > > adding CO2 did more than anything else, with the
> > > exception of Flourite
> > > substrate, to boost plant health in lower light
> > > environment.
> > > Re: OT. I would say definitely.
> > > Regards
> > > June
> > >
> > >   
> > >
> > >      
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > > I am having a problem with my bolbitis ferns-the
> > > >     
> > > >
> > > >        
> > > stems are turning black
> > >   
> > >
> > >      
> > >
> > > > and rotting, then leaving the ends with the leaves
> > > >     
> > > >
> > > >        
> > > free to disconnect
> > >   
> > >
> > >      
> > >
> > > > and drift away from the mother plant. Some leaves
> > > >     
> > > >
> > > >        
> > > also turn black.
> > >   
> > >
> > >      
> > >
> > > > Rhizomes are attached to wood, look fine. This is
> > > >     
> > > >
> > > >        
> > > happening in multiple
> > >   
> > >
> > >      
> > >
> > > > tanks. I have been pretty bad about fertilizing
> > > >     
> > > >
> > > >        
> > > and light bulbs may be
> > >   
> > >
> > >      
> > >
> > > > old but it seems odd that such a tolerant plant
> > > >     
> > > >
> > > >        
> > > would suffer the worst
> > >   
> > >
> > >      
> > >
> > > > for it while rotala indica which likes
> > > >     
> > > >
> > > >        
> > > light/fertilizer survives and
> > >   
> > >
> > >      
> > >
> > > > turns pink at the ends. Any bolbitis tips? Or do
> > > >     
> > > >
> > > >        
> > > the old leaves just do
> > >   
> > >
> > >      
> > >
> > > > this after a while? Seems like more than half of
> > > >     
> > > >
> > > >        
> > > the leaves on the
> > >   
> > >
> > >      
> > >
> > > > affected plants are going down, so it's probably
> > > >     
> > > >
> > > >        
> > > not only the oldest
> > >   
> > >
> > >      
> > >
> > > > leaves dying, though the new ones are ok... Other
> > > >     
> > > >
> > > >        
> > > tanks have younger
> > >   
> > >
> > >      
> > >
> > > > bolbitis cut from the same mother plant with the
> > > >     
> > > >
> > > >        
> > > same water parameters,
> > >   
> > >
> > >      
> > >
> > > > no problem with them.
> > > > Tips?
> > > > By the way, is this considered OT for this group?
> > > >     
> > > >
> > > >        
> > > Maybe replies should
> > >   
> > >
> > >      
> > >
> > > > be off list... :)
> > > > Kate
> > > >
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