Re: [GSAS-Member] Oh well, I guess it wasn't meant to be.

[Paul Wallace <pwallace@u.washington.edu>]

Hero:

This action is completely normal for the fist couple of spawns.  Keep watching though as the parents tend to move the egg/wigglers from time to time.

In practicing for spawning rams, I raised a few angels.  I like:

* A dedicated bare bottom tank.
* Methylene blue in the water to help prevent fungus.
* A live food system ready to go.

I prefer baby brine as they have the least ick factor but feeding in excess tends to drive down water quality.  In a bare bottom you can better remove the waste.  I find that wigglers also get stuck in the gravel if too coarse.  At first I would pull ~1 gal of water out a day and replace from my healthy planted tank.

Your fish will spawn again so be ready!

-Paul

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On Thu, 11 Oct 2007, HIRO TAK wrote:

> Hey guys,
>
>  I guess this time wasn't meant to be.  This morning, I notice the male is not on the stone and abandon the nest and there are only like 1/3 of eggs left.  I think the female recycled them.
>  I don't know if she did it because the eggs are no good or what.  But I think this maybe the case.
> I never saw the eggs turned to milky white or grew fungus but they never changed color either.  They seem stay clear colored.  There are still like 20 clear ones left but nobody fanning or hovering over.  So I think he gave them up taking care of them.
>
>  And that made me think.
>  Was the male too young to fertilized the eggs?
>  Or the water wasn't suited to eggs to develop?
>  Or maybe water have too much movement?
>
>  I think the water should good enough since our tap is suppose to be less than 220 PPM(according to Seattle water), I don't know what exactly in the term of GH.  And I still don't have the test for the hardness.  And I even have water go over the bag of peat so it should soften up the water.
>  And water movement should be ok also since the tank is one of those fancy combo type with trickle filter type built in.  And water drop from the top gently and I even have some floating plants(frog bit).
>  So I think the male may need more time.  Although he showed me he is good Dad who protect the eggs for at least a day.
>
>  So I think I just let them be and see how they do in next few spawns.  And keep them well with good food and frequent water change.
>
>  If after that and still do not work, I might do something about.
>
>  So no BAP of Gold Rams for me  this time.
>
>
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