Hey Eric, Kathy, what happened to the shrimp you guys promised ;) Probably a good thing you didn't have them, since my tank is already overcrowded with all those SAE's I got... BTW, good job on the sale. Gary and I enjoyed ourselves immensely! OK, I have a question, too. I have some guppies in a little 10 gallon eclipse, with the last two remaining bee shrimp I got last year. Apparently they only live for 18 months so I assume they are dying of old age. Unfortunately, they never bred in my tank, so that seems to be the end of them. There isn't a heater in the tank, so now I am looking for something larger than a snail to eat the algae. Does anyone know if Otos or other algae eaters will take cold (room temp) water? Brett Johnson Green Man Gardens bnbjohns@home.com