RE: discus gills

[Gary.Johnson@netupdate.com]

Hmmm...27.1 Deg C = 80.78 Deg F... That's too low! When I had discus they
were never happy below about 82 deg F(about 27.7 deg C). The first thing I
would do for them is to raise the temp up to 84 deg F(28.8 deg C). We found
that the discus were very hardy at the higher temp but they were very
finicky at lower temps. We seldom had troubles with plants at the higher
temperatures either. I hope this helps!

Gary Johnson
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-gsas-member@thekrib.com
[mailto:owner-gsas-member@thekrib.com]On Behalf Of Marie Weiler
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 10:08 AM
To: 'gsas-member@thekrib.com'
Subject: RE: discus gills


The temperature was originally at 27.1C but I lowered it a tiny bit to
26.7C, hoping the plants would do better. I haven't checked nitrite and
ammonia for over a month because when I went to buy a new nitrite kit I was
told that once nitrate started to appear, that wasn't necessary. Sorry, I'm
not at home or I would check it now. The tank was set up December 1; plants
added January 1; discus added February 17.
Thanks!

-----Original Message-----
From: Walburger, David [mailto:dwalburger@epochbio.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 9:40 AM
To: 'gsas-member@thekrib.com'
Subject: RE: discus gills


Hi Marie,

Rapid breathing through one gill is one symptom of gill flukes.  Flukes are
an opportunistic parasites that are often associated with poor water
conditions or weakening fish.  More important than your Nitrate readings,
what are your Ammonia and Nitrite readings?  Also, what temperature is your
tank at?

There are multiple treatments for flukes, some more effective (and expensive
than others) - the best one for you depends on your situation and
experience.

Dave W.

-----Original Message-----
From: Marie Weiler [mailto:MarieW@marquand.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 8:29 AM
To: gsas-member@thekrib.com
Subject: discus gills


Dare I venture an elementary question regarding discus. I have two
wild-caught green discus, which I've had for a month in a 100-gal
semi-community planted tank. We've recently noticed that the smaller one
(about 3" diam) is breathing very hard, i.e., gills expanding and pink
insides visible. The larger one (about 4" diam) seems to expand almost as
much but on just one side - the other side seems normal (tho we don't really
know what normal is). Also, we've been unable to see the smaller one eat for
the last week or so (originally the larger one would butt it away from food
and now it seems to have quit trying to eat). I've also been fighting
blue-green algae and just last night discovered I had zero iron in my tank
(we are now treating all of this), but ph has been constant at about 6.2-4
and nitrates at about 10.  Does it seem likely that the fish have just been
stressed by the algae or lack of iron or some other element? (all the other
fish in the tank seem hunky dory) or is this a disease symptom? (gill
flukes?)

Thanks for any help and advice,
Marie Weiler