Kate, Whoa!!.....Never heard of flubendazole....sounds like it should be a disease! What is it used for? Is it a Hydra medication? I hope your plants come back around for you. Have you changed the water since this happened and eliminated most of the medications you were using in the tanks? Clay -----Original Message----- From: Kate Breimayer [mailto:kate@munat.com] Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 4:28 PM To: gsas-member@thekrib.com Subject: Re: bolbitis heudelotii (plant) problem It was the mother plant for a bunch of them, It was doing fine for probably a year in my tanks, and the person I got the original cutting from had hers a year. That is what is so frustrating. Grew beautifully and madly for so long and then bam, it's rotting, and it's doing so in tanks at different temps with different light, CO2, and stocking levels that aren't even in the same room. Granted I let the CO2 and fertilizer slide lately due to migraines followed by surgery but still, it grew great before I started using CO2 and fertilizer. That additional salt theory sounds kind of plausible though, and maybe I medicated and forgot about it. I was using meds for hydra, now that I recall, that would be formaldehyde with copper, neither is good for plants is it? Stupid hydra. At least that's gone for now. Now have flubendazole for fighting hydra, anyone know if that is bad for plants? Thanks, Kate throatwarbler mangrove wrote: >FWIW, I could never get this plant to establish in my >old fishroom. My water was very hard (so, anubias, >african cichlids and mexican livebearers loved it). >Was this an attempt to start the plant or was it >established? I think I have seen bolbitis grown out of >water and sold to the aquatic trade (much like those >little pine-tree plants). Plants started this way >generally have a hard time establishing themselves >when submerged. > >Matt >--- "Hess, Clay A" <clay.a.hess@Boeing.com> wrote: > > >>Hi Kate, >> >>Have you treated your water for any type of diseases >>of late? I treated my tank for parasites awhile >>back and had a similar issue with my java fern. I >>was using formaldahyde and found my plants did not >>appreciate that at all. The leaves turned black >>slowly and then broke loose of the main root and >>floated away. Just a thought. And, I do not think >>that this is Off Topic for this list at all. In >>fact, I think this is a great item for the list. >> >>Clay >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: June Olberding [mailto:jdolb1@comcast.net] >>Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2003 9:29 AM >>To: gsas-member@thekrib.com >>Subject: Re: bolbitis heudelotii (plant) problem >> >> >>Hi Kate, >>I haven't had much experience with bolbitis. I know >>it doesn't seem to like >>really high light environments. I know you are not >>running high light >>tanks. You keep most of your water pretty soft. I >>don't know if that may be >>a problem. Mine is in a livebearer tank with KH of >>4-5 and GH of 5-10. It >>does well in that environment which has about 2 >>watts /gal of shop light. It >>took a long time to establish and occasionally will >>have a section go black >>and fall away. Thought that to be normal or that I >>had damaged leaf working >>in tank. This may be inaccurate but I think it >>doesn't like to be disturbed >>or moved to new locations. AFA nutrients, I do run >>my tanks rather rich. >>Also you might try running a little DIY CO2 for it. >>Generally folks don't >>think of CO2 need in low light plant tanks, but has >>been my experience that >>adding CO2 did more than anything else, with the >>exception of Flourite >>substrate, to boost plant health in lower light >>environment. >>Re: OT. I would say definitely. >>Regards >>June >> >> >> >>>Hi, >>>I am having a problem with my bolbitis ferns-the >>> >>> >>stems are turning black >> >> >>>and rotting, then leaving the ends with the leaves >>> >>> >>free to disconnect >> >> >>>and drift away from the mother plant. Some leaves >>> >>> >>also turn black. >> >> >>>Rhizomes are attached to wood, look fine. This is >>> >>> >>happening in multiple >> >> >>>tanks. I have been pretty bad about fertilizing >>> >>> >>and light bulbs may be >> >> >>>old but it seems odd that such a tolerant plant >>> >>> >>would suffer the worst >> >> >>>for it while rotala indica which likes >>> >>> >>light/fertilizer survives and >> >> >>>turns pink at the ends. Any bolbitis tips? Or do >>> >>> >>the old leaves just do >> >> >>>this after a while? Seems like more than half of >>> >>> >>the leaves on the >> >> >>>affected plants are going down, so it's probably >>> >>> >>not only the oldest >> >> >>>leaves dying, though the new ones are ok... Other >>> >>> >>tanks have younger >> >> >>>bolbitis cut from the same mother plant with the >>> >>> >>same water parameters, >> >> >>>no problem with them. >>>Tips? >>>By the way, is this considered OT for this group? >>> >>> >>Maybe replies should >> >> >>>be off list... :) >>>Kate >>> >>>------------------ >>>To unsubscribe from this list, please send mail to >>> >>> >>majordomo@thekrib.com >> >> >>>with "Unsubscribe gsas-member" in the body of the >>> >>> >>message. Archives of >> >> >>>this list can be found at >>> >>> >>http://lists.thekrib.com/gsas-member/ >> >> >> ------------------ >> To unsubscribe from this list, please send mail to >>majordomo@thekrib.com >> with "Unsubscribe gsas-member" in the body of the >>message. Archives of >> this list can be found at >>http://lists.thekrib.com/gsas-member/ >> >> >> ------------------ >> To unsubscribe from this list, please send mail to >>majordomo@thekrib.com >> with "Unsubscribe gsas-member" in the body of the >>message. 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