Did you mean 0 nitrites? If so, what is your nitrate reading? Was the tank fully cycled before you added them? Tropheus don't handle the cycling process well at all. Definitely do 30% water changes daily until your readings are 0 ammonia, and 0 nitrites, with a low nitrate reading. If your fish are still eating, food soaked in garlic and or metronidazole can drastically improve their chances of survival. At the Cichlid-forum, the accepted treatment for bloat is Clout, dosed full strength, as soon as the problem is noticed. If you wait a few days before trying it, the blockage in their gut is usually septic and the progression through dropsy usually ensues. Changes in diet can also cause bloat for them, not just the presence of all veggie matter. Basically they have a long intestinal tract, much like horses, and any change needs to be tempered with food their gut is already used to, or you can cause blockages. Barbie ----- Original Message ----- From: Trish To: Fish List Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 9:45 AM Subject: Tropheus Duboisi/dieing Hi everyone- Not sure who can help me with this one, but whoever can, please respond ASAP. In March/April I had purchased 22 baby Duboisi. Everything was going along great, all happy, eating, settling in nicley in a 90 gallon, with only them, and 6 baby yellow labs, 2 clown loaches. All was great until now about 2 weeks ago, they started acting different. As in acting lethargic, scraping against rocks, and not eating as vigoriously. I feed spirilina flakes, romain lettuce, and frozen pease. So only veggie matter. All is excepted. Water changes once a week of 60%. Chemicals used are, Amguel,Novaqua,aquarium salt. Ph tests out at 7.8, 0 amonia,0 niterates. Filter is a fluval 404, in the filter for media, I use carbon, filter floss, and those ceramic stones it comes with. Substrate sand. Have lost a total of 8 fish in all, with 4 being just last night. Am going to do another water change, even though one was just done Saturday morning....not sure of what else to do. All other fish are fine, even have one of the yellow labs holding. The only ones which are acting different are the Duboisi. Any information, or suggestions would be great. Thanks in advance, Trish __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ ------------------ To unsubscribe from this list, please send mail to majordomo@thekrib.com with "Unsubscribe gsas-member" in the body of the message. Archives of this list can be found at http://lists.thekrib.com/gsas-member/ --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html --- ------------------ To unsubscribe from this list, please send mail to majordomo@thekrib.com with "Unsubscribe gsas-member" in the body of the message. Archives of this list can be found at http://lists.thekrib.com/gsas-member/