Re: Tropheus Duboisi dying

[Trish <snips36@yahoo.com>]

Steve-

I used the quick - cure today.....and it does seem to
bring them around a bit. Before I used it, but after
the water change, another one bit the dust....if I
thought about it, I would have saved it for you.....if
another one goes{hoping not,} I'll save it, and bring
it to the next meeting.

I'll also do another water change on Thursday. And add
quick-cure again.

With the food I am feeding it is Tetra sprulina
flakes, romain lettuce, wahsed first, and also have
given them a few frozen peas. This is it.

Yes they do seem to just kind of hover in one spot,
and do a shimmy now and then...also now and then skip
against the rocks...which could mean something, or
could also mean they just have an itch....this isn't
as common as the shimmy thing. Fins a very slightly
clamped, but not bad...also breathing a little
heavy.... But all are eating. 

The only ones which seem to be affected are the
duboisi.....the yellow labs are fine.

The sea salt I used is coral life. I use this on my
other africans and they are all fine.

I would love to keep one in a seperate tank, but don't
have one empty...and as you know the fish in the 125
are all to big, the duboisi would be a snack....LOL
and expensive snack!

I'll be out tomorrow as have an early dentist
appoinment so will pick up some more quick-cure, and
as well some clout....I have maricide {I think that's
what it's called} here, will that help??

Should I do water changes then every day, or keep to
every other day....and then how much. It is a 90
gallon tank.

Thanks,
    Trish


--- steev ward <steevward@mac.com> wrote:
> Trish-
> It does sound like an external parasite, but not
> definitely. See if you get some good results
> (lessening of
> symptoms) with the water changes and another round
> of Quick-Cure.
> It wouldn't be wise to completely rule out the bloat
> possibility (as Barbie mentioned) because there are
> a
> couple different causes for that and Tropheus are so
> prone to that syndrome.
> Also we can't be 100% sure that there isn't a
> problem with the foods, because you've only had them
> a short time
> as far as feeding goes. This is probably not the
> problem, but you can't be sure yet.
> 
> Do they tend at all to keep their fins a bit closed
> (slightly clamped)? Do they swim in one place with
> exaggerated lateral body movements (shimmy)? Is
> there any change for the WORSE in the days following
> a water
> change?
> 
> What type of sea salt did you use? Brand name?
> If you are using just aquarium salt I think you
> should add some Epsom Salt too, like a teaspoon per
> five
> gallons, because they might be low on magnesium and
> that could easily be adding to their problems.
> 
> An experiment that you really should try is to
> remove the next fish that seems to be showing
> symptoms and place
> it in a different tank. Occassionally when I do this
> I find that the fish begins to recover, and of
> course that
> is a VERY useful thing to know, because it means
> that the problem is in the tank, not the fish. You
> could
> likewise try a different food on one of the ailing
> fish. Long shots but well worth trying.
> 
> You might also pick up a new jar of the Spirulina
> flakes (maybe a different brand even) and see if the
> fish
> respond to it. While you're at the LFS you might as
> well also pick up some Metronidazole (or Clout as
> Barbie
> mentioned- I'm just not that crazy about Clout)
> because  it's good to have some Metronidazole around
> when you
> have the kind of fish you have.
> 
> Of course there is always the possibilty that the
> parasite (if there is one) is a skin fluke, in which
> case the
> Quick-Cure would help but not cure it and you'd have
> to use something else like Fluke Tabs (or some of
> Susan's
> Praziquantel). But we'll worry about that later.
> 
> If you saved any of the dead ones in the freezer I'd
> be happy to take a look at it, next time we get
> together.
> 
> Steev
> 
> 
> Susan Welenofsky wrote:
> 
> > Trish:
> >
> > I use Seachem Lake Malawi Cichlid salts and
> Seachem Taganikya buffer. I don't add any sodium
> chloride (salt).
> >
> > Susan
> 
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