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RE: GE Silicon II the winner!
Erik brings up a good point. All the siliconE out there that is mildew
resistant has some form of mildew killer in it, these mildew killers are
usually metals such as arsenic or copper......metals that do not mix well in
high doses with fish. I am sitting here looking at a tube of GE SiliconE II as
I write this and it does not state that it is mildew resistant however. It
does, however, warn that methanol and ammonia are released during its curing
cycle........this means do not use it on a tank and then introduce fish into
the tank until the material has fully cured or you will most likely run the
risk of killing your fish with ammonia and methanol. Full cure takes 24 hours
to accomplish. GE advertises their SiliconE II as their top of the line
siliconE too, being good for indoor or outdoor use.
Clay
-----Original Message-----
From: Erik Olson [mailto:erik@thekrib.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 8:20 PM
To: gsas-member@thekrib.com
Subject: Re: GE Silicon II the winner!
Be careful... I think the II's may have all had anti-mildew agents in
them, including the clear ones! If the label says anything about
anti-mildew, it's no good for tanks...
- Erik
On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 welenofsky@comcast.net wrote:
> Hey, wow! I think I'll return the GE 100% Silicon I for the II. These
> tubes cost less than $4, while the Big Al's is $13. No more
> Neolamprologus leulupi now. They are at Leomann's Plaza Blue Sierra
> fish store. Must have been a different strain maybe? As the one had a
> dark face, and a dark orange body. My Labidochromis caeruleus population was
> reduced from 13 to 10 within a week, so I was wrong about them not getting
> eaten! So eleven fish disappeared. I'll keep the other ones seperate! Susan
> -------------- Original message --------------
>
> > BTW: Big Al's in Canada has the 10 oz size on their website for a
> > pretty
> > decent price.
> > http://www.bigalsonline.ca/catalog/product.xml?product_id=19355;category_id=
> >
> > 1581;pcid1=1537;pcid2=
> >
> > Interestingly enough is that it seems to be packaged by "All Glass
> > Aquariums".
> >
> > I also found this thread on a BBS...
> > http://fish.orbust.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=42035
> >
> >
> > Gary
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-gsas-member@thekrib.com [mailto:owner-gsas-member@thekrib.com]
> > On Behalf Of Paul Winchester
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 3:58 PM
> > To: gsas-member@thekrib.com
> > Subject: Re: Any volunteers?
> >
> > I have not seen it marked that way in the larger tubes but I imagine
> > someone
> >
> > sells it in that size. The smaller size tubes can usually be found
> > at the
> > pet store but always seemed overpriced to me. I couldnt justify $25 of
> > sealant to repair an old tank.
> >
> > I believe the door and window sealant is OK. Anyone know for sure?
> >
> >
> > >From: AuntieFran@comcast.net
> > >Reply-To: gsas-member@thekrib.com
> > >To: gsas-member@thekrib.com
> > >Subject: Re: Any volunteers?
> > >Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 22:32:01 +0000
> > >
> > >Paul, isn't there a GE sealant that's actually marked Aquarium
> > >Safe? It's
> > >clear rather than white.
> > >
> > >
> > >--
> > >Growing old is inevitable;
> > >growing up is optional.
> > >
> > >
> > >-------------- Original message --------------
> > >
> > > > When you buy the GE silicon avoid the type marked kitchen and
> > > > bath. It
> > > > contains the toxic chemical (forget which ones) that help it prevent
> > >mold
> > > > and mildew.
> > > >
> > > > Paul
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: welenofsky@comcast.net
> > > > >Reply-To: gsas-member@thekrib.com
> > > > >To: gsas-member@thekrib.com
> > > > >Subject: Re: Any volunteers?
> > > > >Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 22:21:27 +0000
> > > > >
> > > > >Oh sure. You can bring it here to Bellevue if you want. I'm
> > > > >moving up
> > > > >North. It would involved cleaning the tank real good, with ammonia, a
> > > > >degreaser, then going over the clean excisting seals with the tube of
> > >clear
> > > > >silicon. I can't guarentee the success of the "operation", but
> > > > >I did
> > >get my
> > > > >steel framer to stop leaking. Haven't tried out the other one I
> > > > >got
> > >from
> > > > >June and resealed. Now that the weather is good, I could fill
> > > > >it up on
> > >the
> > > > >patio and let you know. I would be happy to do it for you if
> > > > >you or
> > >others
> > > > >don't feel up to the task. I bought the 100% clear plain
> > > > >silicon, by GE
> > > > >this time from Lowe's hardware. I have an applicator gun, like for
> > >redoing
> > > > >the seals around bathtubs. I'm going to try that project out as
> > > > >well. I
> >
> > >am
> > > > >testing out the seals for toxicity with some goldfish since the
> > >quarentined
> > > > >sick discus died in the tank.
> > > > >Susan
> > > > >-------------- Original message --------------
> > > > >
> > > > > > Yep, we're "up north" :) Actually, Susan, I'm not really
> > > > > > sure I want
> > > > >*more*
> > > > > > fish right now. (On the other hand, I'm not sure I *don't*
> > > > > > want more
> > > > >fish right
> > > > > > now. We're going to be moving within the next three or four
> > > > > > months
> > >and
> > > > >there
> > > > > > are already 5 10Gs, 12.5G, a 15T and the 29T that already
> > > > > > have to be
> > > > >packed up
> > > > > > and shuffled about. I want to set up a minimum 55G at the
> > > > > > new house
> > >and
> > > > >that
> > > > > > will no doubt be a cichlid tank!
> > > > > > The game plan was to repair the old 29T and move your four yellow
> > >labs
> > > > >(from the
> > > > > > GSAS auction) and the Synodontis Cat that shares one of the
> > > > > > 10Gs
> > >into
> > > > >the old
> > > > > > 29T. I don't know how many more fish the 29T would
> > > > > > accommodate (if
> > >any).
> > > > > > Compatability is an issue, too.I'm 100% new to cichlids!
> > > > > > All that having been said, do you still want to consider re-sealing
> > >the
> > > > >old 29T?
> > > > > > We could bring it in to you if that would help. As an aside,
> > > > > > don't
> > >you
> > > > >love The
> > > > > > Fish Store? I just wish I could get in there more often!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Growing old is inevitable;
> > > > > > growing up is optional.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -------------- Original message --------------
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hummm. You're up in Marysville? I could do it with clear.
> > > > > > > I'm having to condense fish since my daffidill brichardi's
> > > > > > > started
> >
> > >to
> > > > >breed. I
> > > > > > > have more yellow labs available, all 1", with great color.
> > > > > > > I was
> > >going
> > > > >to
> > > > > > trade
> > > > > > > them in at the pet store today. Also I have two
> > > > > > > Neolamprologus
> > >lelupi
> > > > >that
> > > > > > could
> > > > > > > go, and three Tropheus. One is Ikola, black with a yellow
> > > > > > > band
> > >around
> > > > >the
> > > > > > > middle, quite large, probably a male. I paid $30 for him
> > > > > > > at The
> > >Fish
> > > > >Gallery
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > Renton. The other two Tropheus are from Bob, and they're a
> > > > > > > lively
> > > > >group
> > > > > > > together. The N. lelupi are very calm. One is very big,
> > > > > > > and
> > >probably a
> > > > >female.
> > > > > > > The other one might not be a lelupi, but they both look
> > > > > > > good
> > >together.
> > > > >I got
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > large N. lelupi for $10 at the Fish Store in Seattle. It
> > > > > > > was my
> > >first
> > > > > > > Tanganikyan. So, if you are looking to set up another
> > > > > > > tank, I have
> >
> > >the
> > > > >fish,
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > the Seachem supplies. I can give you some. I have plenty
> > > > > > > of
> > >buffer.
> > > > > > > Susan
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -------------- Original message --------------
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I have an Eclipse 29T that sprung a leak last week. That
> > > > > > > > problem
> >
> > >was
> > > > >solved
> > > > > > by
> > > > > > > > purchasing a new 29T tank :( Is there anyone here at
> > > > > > > > GSAS who
> > >(for a
> > > > >fee, of
> > > > > > > > course) would be willing to re-seal this tank for me?
> > > > > > > > Even when
> > > > >whole, I'm
> > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > up to hoisting that thing around to do the job.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Growing old is inevitable;
> > > > > > > > growing up is optional.
> > > > > > > >
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