I've got a couple fish that would probably spawn more readily if I could figure out a way to bring down the pH safely. I've tried a number of things that have helped, but I still rarely get the pH below 7.0. Most of my tanks run at 7.4 - 7.6. My tap water is between 8.4 - 8.6 even after letting it sit overnight. It's also very soft (both KH and GH).. I've tried running it through one of those Aquarium Pharmaceuticals deionization columns, but still....the lowest I can get it is 7.0. I've tried running a bag of peat in my filter box...again, it's hard to get anything below 7.0. What I need to do is take the deionized water and run it through a peat filter before putting it in a tank. Haven't done that yet. I'd like to bring the pH in some tanks down to 6.8 or so. If I get some licorice gouramis...I need to be able to go lower than that. I realize that I have very little buffering capacity in my tanks as is (sigh). Would RO water have a lower pH than DI water (all I'd be adding is the Electro-Right stuff)? I haven't invested in a RO unit and would kinda like to avoid that if I can get away with it. Would Discus buffer in DI water be useful? I'm NOT a chemist! I'm stretching my chemistry capacity over the nitrogenous waste cycle <G>. Maybe I can stretch my brain a bit, but I need help. Would this be a useful club meeting talk? Or am I the only one who is pH challenged <G>? Betty Goetz ------------------ To unsubscribe from this list, please send mail to majordomo@thekrib.com with "Unsubscribe gsas-member" in the body of the message. Archives of this list can be found at http://lists.thekrib.com/gsas-member/