OK....it's time for true confessions! Susan brought the remains of her recently departed cichlid and I tried, but no otoliths. Hmmmmm....after 20 some years of pulling otoliths from various fish, you'd think I could do it, but no go. My best guess is that cichlids have very small otoliths....OR....due to the condition of Snuffles remains, the otoliths had gotten displaced, i.e. drifted with the brain mush. It was fun to try though, and I'm game to try again. But best if the dead fish is as fresh as possible (weak grin). Betty Goetz where little dead fish parts drift through my dreams...... _______________________________________________ GSAS-Member mailing list GSAS-Member@thekrib.com http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member