I actually had already decided not to treat it prophylactically (sic?) simply because I don't do that for myself. At the fish store (I turned in my found dead bodies tonight) they found a slight raise in nitrite, which was puzzling since the system had been showing fully mature for months, only showing nitrates at very low levels. I'd also begun to worry about the filter, it didn't seem to be churning out water at a rapid enough rate. So I bought the AquaClear 200, and I will put that on my SE Asian 30 gal tank, and I will take ITS Aqua Clear 300, which is practically brand new, and put it on my 37 gal tank. I bought ChemPure for both filters. I am reluctant to move the remaining fish to another tank, because if they are carrying a parasite, then that tank will become infected. But I will start doing very large water changes every few days, and take advantage of the depopulation to change to substrate to a good one for plants, and then use the existing fish to help mature the tank. Once the tank is no longer showing nitrites, then I'll think about repopulating it. I really appreciate everyone's feedback, it's helped me think through what to do next. I can hardly wait to meet you all in person. Anita ----- Original Message ----- From: steev ward<mailto:steevward@mac.com> To: Greater Seattle Aquarium Society member chat<mailto:gsas-member@thekrib.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] Hello & help! Anita- Medicines: Your best bet might be to simply wait it out. It could be that there are several things going on, and it could be that a parasite is not to blame (the angelfish would not have died from Ich). You can't really treat for Ich or Velvet without hurting your shrimp. So maybe you can keep an eye on what fish you have and move them out to another tank if they appear sick, to medicate them there. Maracyn is not much good for Ich. You might see if you can find an Ich treatment that is based on Quinine Hydrochloride or Quinine Sulfate. I wouldn't call it the tank of death. It might turn out that the 5 bronze corys, 4 adult serpae tetras, talking catfish, bamboo shrimp, rainbow shrimp, ghost shrimps, and fiddler crabs are quite happy. Whenever we go for awhile adding new types of fish we eventually bring home some sick ones. You might think about backing off on the CO2 until the fish stop dying a little. Steev A JACOBSON wrote: > Oh, I am definitely not adding anything to the tank of death (as I'm > beginning to think of it). All the deaths are from fish that were already > in the tank when I added the two Blue Rams. What type of medication, > something like CopperSafe? > > Anita _______________________________________________ GSAS-Member mailing list GSAS-Member@thekrib.com<mailto:GSAS-Member@thekrib.com> http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member<http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member> _______________________________________________ GSAS-Member mailing list GSAS-Member@thekrib.com http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member