thanks for the tip Kate i was just running out of my expensive dechlorinator/"slime-coat-enhancer" stuff. i think maybe if fish are sickly/sensitive to water changes, plain salt treatment would accomplish the same thing as the expensive dechlorinator/"slime-coat-enhancer" stuff? i just read that one of the benefits of salt treatment is that it boosts slime coat production. it sure is the cheaper solution.... i finally picked up a 20lb bag of "solar salt" @ home depot for <<$10, and it seems to working great on my young discus juveniles. - adam On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 23:26:07 -0800 (PST), Trish <snips36@yahoo.com> wrote: > Amquel has come out with something new Calked "Amquel > Plus" this is what smells really bad. The regular > "Amquel" which now I have found only from Dr Foster > and Smith, and only in 1 gal size, doesn't smell bad. > The Amqel Plus has other added bacteria, which says it > is benificial to your fish....well it killed mine. So > I am back to regular Amquel....have been using it for > 6 years, no problems. > > No Kate, do you use anything for slime coat as well? > Like Nov Aqua? Which goes with the Amquel.....LOL > > Trish > > PS How large does this Beckett product come? Also do > you know the price? > > > --- Kate Breimayer <kate@munat.com> wrote: > > > I personally hate amquel, wouldn't recommend it. I > > use a pond > > dechlorinator from Home despot. If you are using > > chlorinated water the > > chemical that neutralizes it is very cheap and > > easily available and > > there is no reason you should have to use high doses > > of any product or > > extra ingredients to achieve the aim of > > neutralizing, and pond products > > are 2 to 4 times as concentrated as those for > > aquariums, come in bigger > > bottles for the same price, and have identical > > ingredients in most > > cases. Some of the products out there can be > > dangerous in some peoples' > > hands, especially those that use amquel instead of > > doing water changes > > (because it says on the bottle "removes ammonia, > > nitrite and nitrate" > > which has never been my experience.) Also Amquel > > smells really bad. > > PAT is good. > > According to a Jemco.com many cities are being > > required by federal law > > to switch to chloramine which is more difficult to > > remove, you will > > need a special neutralizer for that. If they do it > > they are not required > > to tell you, scary, or it might be in the paper but > > if you don't read > > the news... bad deal. > > I age most of my water 2 days to allow gasses to > > escape, temp to rise, > > and chlorine to dissipate. I only use cold water > > since supposedly it has > > less dissolved metals/contaminants. I don't have > > space to age water for > > the really large tanks, hence the use of the Home > > Despot product. The > > Home Depot stuff is by "Beckett" and I have not had > > any problems with > > it, let me know if anyone knows bad things about it! > > I see it also works > > on chloramine so I am covered far as that goes. It > > doesn't list > > ingredients but does say it removes some heavy > > metals. Guess we wouldn't > > know would we? > > Congrats on the python, no sense herniating discs > > over a simple water > > change! The cost of the python is quickly recouped > > in cancelled trips to > > massage and chiropractic specialists! :) Not to > > mention expensive > > physical therapy... > > Kate > > > > Stewart, Jeffrey wrote: > > > > >I think I'm using Amquel currently, and I add it in > > as I'm refilling. I figure out approximately how > > much I need to add and then add it in thirds as the > > tank slowly tops off. > > > > > >Your back will thank you for getting the python... > > > > > >Jeff Stewart > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >From: gsas-member-bounces@thekrib.com > > [mailto:gsas-member-bounces@thekrib.com] On Behalf > > Of A JACOBSON > > >Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 12:55 PM > > >To: gsas-member@thekrib.com > > >Subject: [GSAS-Member] Using a Python > > > > > >So, I'm about to break down and buy a python -- or > > rather, my back is about > > >to break down, so I'm going to buy a python to save > > it. > > > > > >I have Seattle tap water, and need to know what to > > do about dechlorination. > > >Do I add the agent to the tank after I've siphoned > > off what I'm not going to > > >use, but before I add the new water? Or do I wait > > until I've added all the > > >water, and then add the agent? > > > > > >Also, want to know what people are personally using > > for their water change > > >dechlorinator. I have P.A.T. and Stress Coat, but > > am unsure if one is > > >superior to the other. > > > > > >Thanks, > > > > > >Anita > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >GSAS-Member mailing list > > >GSAS-Member@thekrib.com > > > >http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >GSAS-Member mailing list > > >GSAS-Member@thekrib.com > > > >http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > GSAS-Member mailing list > > GSAS-Member@thekrib.com > > > http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! 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