For draining, I use Paul's hose method to drain from tanks to the closest toilet. For refilling, I've stuck an old 30 gallon hexagon tank into my hot-water closet (keeps the water warm without having to heat it) and in it placed a sump pump with a 100ft garden hose attached to it. I turn on the sump pump and kink the end of the hose and walk around refilling. Because it's a sump pump and not an aquarium pump - the water pressure is similar to my tap's pressure. Once the 30 gallon tank is empty, I turn it off and screw the end (female end) onto the kitchen sink's faucet (with a $2 adaptor on it) and refill the 30 gallon tank. The pump allows the water to flow back through it when it is off. Since I have no chloramines in my water, within 24hours I have more aged, warm water that doesn't need to be treated with dechlorinator. I've thrown a little power head into the 30 gallon to agitate the water and speed the process along. For those interested in trying it, the sump pump was purchased from a local home improvement store for about $45. There should be a chart which shows how high the pump will push the water. Since I fill my second story tanks with the first floor sump tank, I bought a mid-range sump pump so I have decent pressure on the second floor. If you are only refilling on a single floor, a cheaper sump pump would probably work just fine. You may need to buy an adaptor (brass because it will be sitting in water - the stainless stuff is often too cheap to withstand being submerged) if you do not have a female port on the sump pump (you need the hose's female end to screw onto your faucet). Dave -----Original Message----- From: Paul Winchester [mailto:bravo454@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 12:32 PM To: gsas-member@thekrib.com Subject: RE: [GSAS-Member] Using a Python I use a hose to drain the tanks into a sink and then bought a $2 fitting for the bathroom faucet at the hardware store that allows a hose to be screwed on. Paul >From: "Stewart, Jeffrey" <jeffs@amazon.com> >Reply-To: Greater Seattle Aquarium Society member >chat<gsas-member@thekrib.com> >To: "Greater Seattle Aquarium Society member chat" ><gsas-member@thekrib.com> >Subject: RE: [GSAS-Member] Using a Python >Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 14:28:37 -0800 > >I'm using a bathroom faucet. I unscrew the normal attachment, screw in the >one that fits the python, and then replace the original one once I'm done. > >If you can't use your faucet, you could always use the python to drain >(directly to the garden or toilet) and use buckets for refilling... It's >not the best solution, but would still cut your bucket load in half. > >Jeff Stewart > > >-----Original Message----- >From: gsas-member-bounces@thekrib.com >[mailto:gsas-member-bounces@thekrib.com] On Behalf Of DonaldR >Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 2:05 PM >To: Greater Seattle Aquarium Society member chat >Subject: RE: [GSAS-Member] Using a Python > >What kind of faucet connection do you need? I have one of those kitchen >spray/aerator combination units with the built in hose. Bathroom has no >threaded faucet either. > >Any suggestions? > >-Don Rudee > >--- "Stewart, Jeffrey" <jeffs@amazon.com> wrote: > > > I think I'm using Amquel currently, and I add it in as I'm refilling. > > I figure out approximately how much I need to add and then add it in > > thirds as the tank slowly tops off. > > > > Your back will thank you for getting the python... > > > > Jeff Stewart > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: gsas-member-bounces@thekrib.com > > [mailto:gsas-member-bounces@thekrib.com] On Behalf Of A JACOBSON > > Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 12:55 PM > > To: gsas-member@thekrib.com > > Subject: [GSAS-Member] Using a Python > > > > So, I'm about to break down and buy a python -- or rather, my back is > > about > > to break down, so I'm going to buy a python to save it. > > > > I have Seattle tap water, and need to know what to do about > > dechlorination. > > Do I add the agent to the tank after I've siphoned off what I'm not > > going to > > use, but before I add the new water? Or do I wait until I've added > > all the > > water, and then add the agent? > > > > Also, want to know what people are personally using for their water > > change > > dechlorinator. 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