RE: [GSAS-Member] Hole-in-the-Head Disease -- need advice

["Susan Welenofsky" <welenofsky@comcast.net>]

Be careful feeding small fish medicated food. I lost some brichardis that
way. I think some are more sensitive than others. I think the normal dose of
antibiotics is 250 mg per five gallons of water. I would still use the
Maracide, in addition to the vitamins. I don't think it will hurt the fish
or your beneficial bacteria.

If there is any way you can give the rams a home of their own, that would be
the best, since they will be territorial with any fish. I can give you some
vinegar eels and microworm starters. You will be sure to have people who
want rams, and pet stores too. I have heard that they are difficult to
breed, so if you can do it, that is a feather in your cap!

Susan

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Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] Hole-in-the-Head Disease -- need advice

One additional thought.  I've read that Flagyl is the appropriate drug to
treat hex.  I happen to be on a prescription of that now.  Is there any way
I can calculate an appropriate dose for my tank, and mayhaps slip it into
their bloodworms?
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  I like that approach, nicely low tech, though I'll have to buy some
multi-vitamins.
  How much salt would I put into a 40 gal tank, and will that harm the
plants in any way?

  Anita
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    From: Trish<mailto:snips36@yahoo.com<mailto:snips36@yahoo.com>> 
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    Anita-

    I also have hole in the head {very early stages} on 3
    of my small  VC10's, in my 125 gallon.....I was able
    to recognize this right away. For have dealt with this
    before on larger cichlids.I am doing what Steve Ward
    had suggested, to me ....he said do lots of water
    changes{which I do anyway's, 50% weekly} and also give
     2 multi vitamins every other day to my 125 gallon.
    AND I have to say with consitancy, I have noticed the
    holes shrinking! I also switched to Marine Salt for
    the extra minerals.

     So Steve your theory does work! But the key is being
    consistant! I am also now doing this on my 90 gallon
    just as a precaution.

    I hope this helps some!

    Trish
    --- A JACOBSON
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<mailto:amjacobson52@msn.com>>> wrote:

    > A sharper-eyed aquarist than I am (Susan W., to give
    > credit where credit is due) spotted what is probably
    > Hole-in-the-Head disease in two of my adolescent
    > angels (also maybe the 3rd, but she's not giving me
    > her right profile at the moment).  They are in a 40
    > gallon tank, which is kept at 80 degrees (just
    > checked to make sure), VERY heavily planted and
    > inhabited also by shrimp, along with a variety of
    > other fish.
    > 
    > I've tried to do 1/4 water changes once a week, but
    > must admit that I've been hospitalized a couple of
    > times in the last month, so even with a python it
    > hasn't been as frequent as I would like. 
    > Nevertheless, I feel really guilty right now,
    > because Susan discovered this right after she had
    > put a beautiful new angel in the tank (BTW, the
    > angel came out as soon as the bloodworms arrived,
    > and is now hanging with the other angels, and they
    > are all moving as a group, so socially the
    > adjustment looks good).  Since I raised my 3 angels
    > from the size of a thumbnail (your basic $2.50
    > special), I am somewhat invested in having them both
    > survive and thrive -- it was my love of angels that
    > made me decide to buy an aquarium in the first
    > place.
    > 
    > The medicine I have at hand is Maracide.
    > 
    > My instinct is to do a 1/3 water change tonight, and
    > another one tomorrow, and also tomorrow pick up some
    > sort of med specific to hex, take out the chem pure,
    > and start dosing.  Alternatively, I could set up a
    > 20 gal hospital tank and move all the angels into it
    > (don't have any other large cichlids), and just have
    > a filter in there during treatment.
    > 
    > However, I'm open to suggestions.  Susan has
    > particularly recommended Steev Ward's advice, but I
    > am such a newbie at all of this, I'll listen to
    > everyone.
    > 
    > Please take pity on my poor angels, and give me some
    > good advice.
    > 
    > Anita
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