I read a site description of a beach on Lake Malawi, and remember that it included vallisnaria and water lettuce. Evidently the hard water made the val very stiff & brittle, but it was the same val we use, because when the author then raised some of the val in a neutral aquarium, it became "soft" again. Correct me if I'm wrong, but one of the big reasons that african cichlids don't go together with plants is because the african cichlids dig. Anita ----- Original Message ----- From: DELPHILABS@aol.com<mailto:DELPHILABS@aol.com> To: gsas-member@thekrib.com<mailto:gsas-member@thekrib.com> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 7:47 PM Subject: [GSAS-Member] Back to plastics? Listers, For many years (decades) I have not kept live plants because I was told it could not be done with African Cichlids. After reading GSAS for a few months, I realize some of you are successful at it. On a whim while at the local PetCo, I bought Melon Sword, Green Sword, and Hornwort. These plants were gorgeous upon purchase, but the next day one of the swords was developing large black patches and the Hornwort is disintigrating into little bits. The fish (Brevis, Marleii, Brichardi) in the tank do not appear to be disturbing them. Is the problem the water chemistry for these species of plants? One of the swords is doing OK... I realize to do plants correctly, it requires much more effort than I have provided. But is it possible to keep some easy varieties without fertilizers and additional lighting? Or is it back to plastics? Thanks, Keith _______________________________________________ GSAS-Member mailing list GSAS-Member@thekrib.com<mailto:GSAS-Member@thekrib.com> http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member<http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member> _______________________________________________ GSAS-Member mailing list GSAS-Member@thekrib.com http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member