Ben and I have an 80g tank that is ready to be set up. We bought silica sand for it because originally it was going to be a Malawi tank. But now we're thinking of really giving the planted tank thing a try. We'd like to be as successful as possible without going broke buying supplies our planted aquarium. From what I have read a substrate beneficial to plants truly does make a big difference which isn't hard to believe since I know that much about my houseplants. The Soilmaster Select sounds promising if there's a way to order some. I prefer a darker color substrate if possible anyway. But I'm open to harvesting some soil from here in Washington as well. I think when we saw Susan the other night she indicated that she got the substrate in her 100g somewhere in the state, but I don't remember where. So before I add this sand, and potentially get to the point of tearing the tank down to remove it later on, I thought I'd ask what you guys would do. Thanks very much. Holly _______________________________________________ GSAS-Member mailing list GSAS-Member@thekrib.com http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member