I wasn't paying attention to his pH- plus I also tend to be more aware of keeping it the pH low than keeping it up, or even neutral. What's low enough to breed betta burdigala is way too low for poor old Noggin the red devil. From now on he will get to try to bite my pH meter on a regular basis(yes,I do calibrate it...) as well as the gravel vac. --- matt kaufman <igotadose@hotmail.com> wrote: > You've got it backwards; the problem in question was > 'pH too low for a big > cichlid'. The fish was *unhappy* in the low pH, > perhaps due to the issues > with tank maintenance. > > I agree that maintaining a stable, *low* pH Is hard > - I keep killies and > some of them are very fussy about being in pH > between 5.5 and 6.5, the > problem is, you can get them to 5.5 but usually > soon after that the water's > down to 5.0, 4.5, 4.0, dead fish, ... You can't > have much buffering in such > acid water. > > > >From: haika@drizzle.com > >Reply-To: Greater Seattle Aquarium Society member > >chat<gsas-member@thekrib.com> > >To: "Greater Seattle Aquarium Society member chat" > ><gsas-member@thekrib.com> > >Subject: low pH (was) Re: [GSAS-Member] big cichlid > appetites... > >Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:12:45 -0800 (PST) > > > >Sometimes I do have to struggle to maintain a pH > low enough to be suitable > >for the fish in question, and it has nothing at all > to do with 'not enough > >water changes' or too much decomposing gunk. Think > about receiving a bag > >full of licorice gouramis with bag pH of ~6.0 > (wink). > > > >Betty Goetz > > > > > Don't know how you brought it up, but low pH > usually means 'not enough > > > water > > > changes' and too much decomposing cruft in the > tank. Adding stuff to > >raise > > > it is, at best, an emergency stopgap and its > better to address the real > > > problem. Glad your fish recovered. > > > >_______________________________________________ > >GSAS-Member mailing list > >GSAS-Member@thekrib.com > >http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! > Download today - it's FREE! > http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ > > _______________________________________________ > GSAS-Member mailing list > GSAS-Member@thekrib.com > http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ GSAS-Member mailing list GSAS-Member@thekrib.com http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member