Why not just ditch the fish and use shrimp? The nitrates won't build as quickly this way. I've done this in two tanks, but I admit that I still do water changes several times per month. But it's not a big deal to do a water change in a 2.5 gallon tank (wink)....one of the MANY MANY reasons I stick with nano tanks! Betty Goetz > Thanks for your input. Let me give some more challenging parameters: > > The project is a 72 gallon planted tank with JUST enough fish to > provide nitrogen and other nutrients, and relatively self-sufficient > other than adding a minimum of food and probably removing some plants > from time-to-time. No air pump, no filter, no water changes, a little > halogen light (tank is in front of a south-facing window), and a heater > set to 68 degrees. I'll turn the temperature down slowly and remove the > fish that appear to be struggling. I found an old email from Steev with > a list of fish that can live at 68-70 degrees. I have some relatively > low light plants, and the tank will self-select for the plants that > survive the cooler temperatures. > > My other tank, another 72 gallon, might just have my large pleco, and > some sunfish or similar non-tropical fish. It will contain low-light > and pleco-proof plants. > > I'll let you know how my attempts at ultra-low maintenance tanks go. > Any additional input is appreciated. > > John > > > > On Jan 12, 2007, at 5:35 PM, Trish wrote: > > Susan is correct. Water changes are the EASIEST way to > keep our fish happy and healthy. And the cheapest too. > I try to do water changes on all my tanks{8 in all} > weekly, and I do about a 50% water change when I do. > If I go longer, that is when you get the problems, > especially with algea. > > Water changes are a must in fish keeping. > > Trish > > It would be like if you wear the same clothes for > weeks on end, with out a shower in those weeks. You > take your showers regularly, and change your > clothes....do the same for your fish by water changes. > --- SUSAN WELENOFSKY <welenofsky@comcast.net> wrote: > >> Hair algae has nothing to do with the storm. >> >> You had hair algae in the African tank upstairs last >> time I came over. Your >> tanks are out of balance. I was trying to correct >> the problem but you can't >> fix it without doing water changes. That's why it's >> important to do them. I >> don't have algae problems in my tanks unless I go >> too long without water >> changes, sigh. I wish you understood how important >> this is because I sound >> like a broken record. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: John Ruhland [mailto:john@drruhland.com] >> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 3:29 PM >> To: SUSAN WELENOFSKY >> Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] Zebra Pleco >> >> Around the time of the storm, I started getting >> small amounts of hair >> algae in my two other tanks, tanks that had never >> had it before. It was >> also when water changes were at an all-time high >> here. I am also >> feeding less than in the past. Other people seem to >> be having more >> problems with hair algae as well. Could it be that >> there was a change >> in the water quality after the storm? >> >> Would the Ameca splendens do a better job of eating >> the hair algae than >> the Leopard Gooeids? It was the Leopard Gooeids that >> hungrily eat all >> the food and not the hair algae as I reported a week >> or so ago. >> >> John >> >> >> >> >> On Jan 12, 2007, at 1:43 PM, SUSAN WELENOFSKY wrote: >> >> Yes, I brought you those fish because they do. >> >> You should check your nitrate level because that is >> what feeds the >> algae. >> That is why it is important to do water changes. If >> you let it go too >> long, >> the algae gets a good foothold and will destroy your >> plants. I do water >> changes on my tanks weekly. The more you feed, the >> higher the nitrate >> level >> goes, the worse the algae. >> >> Susan >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: gsas-member-bounces@thekrib.com >> [mailto:gsas-member-bounces@thekrib.com] On Behalf >> Of John Ruhland >> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 10:19 AM >> To: Greater Seattle Aquarium Society member chat >> Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] Zebra Pleco >> >> Do they eat hair algae? >> >> On Jan 11, 2007, at 6:20 PM, SUSAN WELENOFSKY wrote: >> >> You have a Hi-Fin Pleco Dr. Ruhland. The fish I >> brought over for >> downstairs >> are Leopard Gooeids, not Ameca splendens, by the >> way. I think they will >> work >> for cooler room temperatures. I will ask Dorian >> since he bred them. >> >> Susan >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: gsas-member-bounces@thekrib.com >> [mailto:gsas-member-bounces@thekrib.com] On Behalf >> Of John Ruhland >> Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 6:01 PM >> To: Greater Seattle Aquarium Society member chat >> Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] Zebra Pleco >> >> I have a really nice looking pleco I'm looking to >> find a home for. He's >> about 8-9 inches. >> I sold the same kind to a fish store last year for >> $15, so I'm guessing >> he's pretty special. >> Also selling a pure black angel fish, about 6 >> inches, and Daffodil >> Bichardi's of various sizes. >> John >> >> >> >> On Jan 11, 2007, at 3:22 PM, <altonkwok@hotmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> I'm looking for Zebra Plecos. 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