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Re: [GSAS-Member] CO2 blah blah



What I have been doing (for the third time) is shutting down the black screw
top that comes with the tank. If the valve to shut of the whole tank is a
needle valve, I would be surprised. So, I think the correct term for what I
had been doing is turning off the main valve. 

BUT, Erik's suggestion worked, which actually was to shut of the
needle-valve instead of turning off the tank. So, NOW, as of today, I am
shutting it off using the needle valve and with the pressure lower, like 10
or 15 psi instead of 20.

I thought silicone was better than vinyl. At least, that's what June
Olberding used, and I got her stuff for taking care of her 20-30 planted
tank room. If I am wrong, someone please correct me. She has blue tubing
going from regulator to the main needle valve and I am using about two
inches green silicone tubing from the needle valve, to the check valve, then
to the line reducer for the mini-vinyl line to the diffusers which are
placed in the aquarium and make CO2 bubbles which make the plants grow.

Susan

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Sounds to me like you are shuting down the needle valve and not the
regulator itself. this allows a decent amount of pressure build up to be
expelled in the morning. you need a silenoid and a timer to auto-shut the
whole thing down at night.
Also silecone tubing is the worst thing you can use for CO2. Def swap out to
some polyurithane tubing or at least normal vinyl airline tubing.

The DR F&S kit you priced out is the super deluxe one.  you can get the
basics for much cheaper. around 120.
the Azoo and JBJ and Milewaukee regulators are all basically the same thing.


If you want some quality CO2 parts talk to www.rexgrigg.com that guy's outta
portland and only uses quality parts.


>Message: 4
>Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 22:01:34 -0800
>From: "Susan Welenofsky" <welenofsky@comcast.net>
>Subject: [GSAS-Member] CO2 Systems
>To: "GSAS Member Chat" ><gsas-member@thekrib.com>
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>I have June O's CO2 regulator, and I think the >brass things are needle
>valves. The trouble is when I have more that one >connection, it's all
>screwy. I shut the valve off at night. When I turn it >on, it is high
>pressure, sometimes blows the silicone hoses.
>then I have to adjust the
pressure valve. Then the pressure goes way down after awhile, and I have to
readjust. Then adjust all the needle valves. Then move the hoses. Then the
CO2 pours out or doesn't come out all. Then fiddle with the needle valves
again. Then there was the time all the gas escaped into the apartment.



This thing is driving me crazy. It seems like I can only run one tank
successfully, when I'd like to do two or three, like June. However, I would
like to turn it off at night, right? Does anyone here know of a good system
or can direct me to someone or someplace that does? I see that it may cost
$322 at Drs. Foster and Smith for a complete package that has an Azoo
regulator. I've heard the JBL regulators on Ebay are no good and Milwaukee
is, and of course ADA is the most expensive money can buy.
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