Re: [GSAS-Member] Anyone successfully using "Seachem Excel" in their planted tanks?

[haika@drizzle.com]

I just looked up the product and I've been using it. In my head it was
'Flourish Excel' and the Seachem threw me off.  Anyway, the 'successfully'
in your subject line also kept me silent. I haven't had problems with the
product but nothing outstanding either. I don't think it did much of
anything for the 29 gallon tank I used it on daily for 3 months. And I
used the recommended dose or just a bit less. And I have a HUGE container
of the stuff (weak grin). I don't do CO2 injection in my planted tanks and
wanted to see if this made a difference.

Betty Goetz

> Clarifying. Here's what really happened:
>
> The label on the bottle says, "5 ml per capful." I blithely added 5
> capfuls.
>
> Trouble is, the bottle I have, is the 2 liter bottle (it was on sale.. oh
> well.) The cap, as I've now measured, holds *15* ml. So, 5 capfuls is *75
> ml* or about 3 times what's needed.
>
> Of course, overdosing an aquarium product shouldn't kill your fish, but
> hey, since the FDA or any recognized testing body isn't involved, caveat
> emtpor and this emptor didn't caveat enough.
>
> Nice of Seachem to not get the dosage information right on their damn
> bottle. My guess is they just used the same label from the smaller
> bottles.
>
> Something that kills fish at high doses probably should not be used even
> at the recommende, low doses.
>
>
>
>
>
>> From: igotadose@hotmail.com> To: gsas-member@thekrib.com> Date: Sun, 1
>> Apr 2007 17:06:08 +0000> Subject: [GSAS-Member] Anyone successfully
>> using "Seachem Excel" in their planted tanks?> > I tried it for the
>> first time yesterday.> > Followed the directions for 'setting up the
>> tank.' Tank had been set up for about 6 weeks, had 6 Hyph. amandae and 6
>> N. marginatus pencilfish, plus the rocking ancistrus and a few odd
>> killies. 55 gallon tank, so I added 50 Ml of this stuff after doing a
>> 20% water change.> > This Excel stuff is *bad news*. > > Next day: All
>> but 2 amandae dead (and one isn't looking good.) Lost 2 marginatus.
>> Catfish and killies seem fine, killies are notoriously tough when it
>> comes to polluted environments.> > Plants look the same.> > > Just did a
>> big water change and added polyfilter to get that junk out. *Then*
>> (stupid me) I looked at the data sheet for this stuff.> > It's an
>> aldehyde (like in Form-aldehyde.) It's rated 1.5 on a 1-3 scale as a
>> toxic pollutant. It smells funny - now I know why I recognized the
>> smell. It's not formaldehyde, exactly, but it's an aldehyde that when in
>> water releases iron and carbon into the water (and will preserve
>> speciments at a high enough concentration.) > > The stuff should have a
>> skull and crossbones on the label.> > So, does anyone actually use this
>> garbage successfully? Anyone want a big bottle of it before I bring it
>> to toxic waste recycle?> > Man, the stuff the tropical fish industry
>> promulgates onto the unsuspecting hobbyist... Just another reminder to
>> not trust the tropical fish industry as far as you can throw them.> >
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