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Re: [GSAS-Member] Anyone successfully using "Seachem Excel" in their planted tanks?



Matt,

Seachem has been really responsive to hobbyists and I have always found them very concerned about what people have to say. You should email them and let them know.

I know we use seachem products in our tanks but I can't remember which ones, ask Erik.

In terms of planted tank fertilizers/trace elements etc....I think they are one of the best along with the tropica fertilizers. I think the planted tank folks use this stuff heavily and I haven't heard complaints.

I will send this email onto Karen Randall and see what she says too.

But I would email your experience/observations to seachem. Let me know what they do. We know the folks....they have helped at a lot of ACA/AGA conventions and been very generous to the hobby. The AGA is considering holding a convention near one of their plants.

Sad about loosing the fish.

Take care,
Kathy

On Sun, 1 Apr 2007, matt kaufman wrote:

Clarifying. Here's what really happened:

The label on the bottle says, "5 ml per capful." I blithely added 5 capfuls.

Trouble is, the bottle I have, is the 2 liter bottle (it was on sale.. oh 
well.) The cap, as I've now measured, holds *15* ml. So, 5 capfuls is *75 ml* 
or about 3 times what's needed.

Of course, overdosing an aquarium product shouldn't kill your fish, but hey, 
since the FDA or any recognized testing body isn't involved, caveat emtpor and 
this emptor didn't caveat enough.

Nice of Seachem to not get the dosage information right on their damn bottle. 
My guess is they just used the same label from the smaller bottles.

Something that kills fish at high doses probably should not be used even at the 
recommende, low doses.





From: igotadose@hotmail.com> To: gsas-member@thekrib.com> Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 17:06:08 +0000> Subject: [GSAS-Member] Anyone successfully using "Seachem Excel" in their 
planted tanks?> > I tried it for the first time yesterday.> > Followed the directions for 'setting up the tank.' Tank had been set up for about 6 weeks, had 6 Hyph. amandae and 
6 N. marginatus pencilfish, plus the rocking ancistrus and a few odd killies. 55 gallon tank, so I added 50 Ml of this stuff after doing a 20% water change.> > This Excel stuff is 
*bad news*. > > Next day: All but 2 amandae dead (and one isn't looking good.) Lost 2 marginatus. Catfish and killies seem fine, killies are notoriously tough when it comes to 
polluted environments.> > Plants look the same.> > > Just did a big water change and added polyfilter to get that junk out. *Then* (stupid me) I looked at the data sheet for 
this stuff.> > It's an aldehyde (like in Form-aldehyde.) It's rated 1.5 on a 1-3 scale as a toxic pollutant. It smells funny - now I know why I recognized the smell. It's not 
formaldehyde, exactly, but it's an aldehyde that when in water releases iron and carbon into the water (and will preserve speciments at a high enough concentration.) > > The stuff 
should have a skull and crossbones on the label.> > So, does anyone actually use this garbage successfully? Anyone want a big bottle of it before I bring it to toxic waste 
recycle?> > Man, the stuff the tropical fish industry promulgates onto the unsuspecting hobbyist... Just another reminder to not trust the tropical fish industry as far as you can 
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