Keith, if you want to see an amazing cichlid shop, go to The Wet Spot in Portland. They have all kinds of freshwater fish, and more Africans that you'll see anywhere. It's worth a drive to Portland just to see it. dave _______________________________________________ GSAS-Member mailing list GSAS-Member@thekrib.com http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member