Thanks for the link Bryan, I will take a look. It is just hard to take the alarmist material seriously. - MS On Dec 18, 2007 10:09 PM, Bryan Nichols <b_monius_funk@yahoo.com> wrote: > Well in reality halocaridina rubra are an incredible species of "super > shrimp" known to live more than 20 years in captivity with the proper > conditions http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halocaridina. Seven years is not > really that long for these guys. > > There are numerous other websites including this one: > http://www.fukubonsai.com/M-L2d.html on the subject. This website shows > the research of Dr. Wayne Nishijima of the Univ of Hawaii. It describes in > detail why the ecosphere is flawed. A Dr. is credible enough for me. > > " Each time the opae-ula molt, they step out of a larger shell and a new > smaller shell hardens around them. Shrinking opae-ula are the same as > skinny people or animals whose gaunt appearance and ribs sticking out are > clear signs of being malnourished! If children or animals were starved as > badly as these opae-ula, the parents, owners, or zookeepers would very > quickly be in jail! > > The low indoor light where opae-ula jars are kept do > not support the growth of high-energy algae equal to the type of algae > that grows in the full sun in the anchialine ponds. The algae that grows > in low light just does not have the nutritional value even if the opae-ula > ate enough to always be "full." They survive but their shrinking indicates > that they are malnourished. > > > Anyone observing opae-ula in their natural habitats > knows that opae-ula are voracious eaters! A healthy pond producing > opae-ula has very little algae growth as the opae-ula is constant grazer > that keeps the algae down. A pond with a lot of algae is a pond that > likely has exotic fish and threatened opae-ula! > > > Anchialine pond algae growing in full sun is believed > to contains a significantly higher amount of nutritional value that the > algae that grows on the inner walls of opae-ula jars that are kept in low > indoor light. Fuku-Bonsai theorized that chill-dried spirulina provided > the same or higher nutritional value of the full sun anchialine pond algae > and it seems too! " > > > > > Steev Ward <steevward@yahoo.com> wrote: Having a live shrimp in there > after seven years sounds pretty good. The torture-sphere > thing sounds like some pointlessly bitter hyperboly. People say a lot of > wacky things > on their websites, but I doubt that the average person could keep a tank > of shrimp > going for seven years ... or even a year when you get right down to it. We > should worry > more about those poor Sea Monkeys (note: just kidding). > > Steev > > > Subject: > Re: [GSAS-Member] Fun Present > Date: > Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:25:26 -0800 > From: > "Matt Staroscik" > Reply-To: > Greater Seattle Aquarium Society member chat > To: > "Greater Seattle Aquarium Society member chat" > References: > 1 , 2 > > > > > I have a small Eco Sphere. It started with 3 shrimp. Today, about 7 years > later, there is one left. Hey, I think I should name him! > > I would like to see the alarmist claims vetted scientifically, for > example, > analyzing the water quality from a sphere that has been in use for a long > time. > > It's not an ideal environment, but don't know that I would call it a > "Torturesphere." > > I have accidentally caused much more grief to higher life forms in my > aquariums, I think. > > - MS > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > > _______________________________________________ > GSAS-Member mailing list > GSAS-Member@thekrib.com > http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member > > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it > now. > _______________________________________________ > GSAS-Member mailing list > GSAS-Member@thekrib.com > http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member > _______________________________________________ GSAS-Member mailing list GSAS-Member@thekrib.com http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member