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Yeah I agree. 

Once again, I hate to sound like a downer. I think that the ecospheres look 
awesome! I just can't justify getting one now that I know the opae ula can live 
much longer in better conditions. 

I've always been of the approach in aquaria to try and create an environment 
that is the best for my fish/shrimp. Thats one reason I got into the planted 
tanks. I know that the species I keep love to have shelter to weave in and out 
of. therefore having vegetation in my aquariums help them in that aspect. It is 
also very beautiful to look at. 

Sorry again. I hope you enjoy your ecosphere regardless.

-BN

Steev Ward <steevward@yahoo.com> wrote: Thanks for the information Bryan. You 
make some good points.
Alot I suppose would depend on what philosophical stance you take on the 
longevity of
invertebrates in captivity. Dr. Wayne Nishijima sounds very credible indeed, 
despite
the fact that the webpage mentioned is promoting his own competing system. I'm 
all for
having better systems.

Steev


--- Bryan Nichols  wrote:

> Well in reality halocaridina rubra are an incredible species of "super 
> shrimp" known
> to live more than 20 years in captivity with the proper conditions
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halocaridina. Seven years is not really that 
> long for
> these guys. 
> 
> There are numerous other websites including this one:
> http://www.fukubonsai.com/M-L2d.html on the subject. This website shows the 
> research
> of Dr. Wayne Nishijima of the Univ of Hawaii. It describes in detail why the
> ecosphere is flawed. A Dr. is credible enough for me. 
> 
> "   Each time the opae-ula molt, they step out of a larger shell and a new 
> smaller
> shell   hardens around them.  Shrinking opae-ula are the same as skinny 
> people or
> animals   whose gaunt appearance and ribs sticking out are clear signs of 
> being
> malnourished! If   children or animals were starved as badly as these 
> opae-ula, the
> parents, owners, or   zookeepers would very quickly be in jail!
> 
>                      The low indoor light where opae-ula jars are kept do not 
> support
> the growth of high-energy   algae equal to the type of algae that grows in 
> the full
> sun in the anchialine ponds. The   algae that grows in low light just does 
> not have
> the nutritional value even if the   opae-ula ate enough to always be "full." 
> They
> survive but their shrinking   indicates that they are malnourished.
> 
> 
>                      Anyone observing opae-ula in their natural habitats 
> knows that
> opae-ula are voracious   eaters!   A healthy pond producing opae-ula has very 
> little
> algae growth as the   opae-ula is constant grazer that keeps the algae down.  
> A pond
> with a lot of algae is   a pond that likely has exotic fish and threatened 
> opae-ula! 
> 
>  
>                      Anchialine pond algae growing in full sun is believed to
> contains a significantly higher   amount of nutritional value that the algae 
> that
> grows on the inner walls of opae-ula jars   that are kept in low indoor light.
> Fuku-Bonsai theorized that chill-dried spirulina   provided the same or higher
> nutritional value of the full sun anchialine pond algae and it   seems too!  "
> 
> 
>  


      
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