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Re: [GSAS-Member] A forum
What abuse to computing resources would we be looking at? There are
many forums that require an admin "okay" to let people register. It's
not as though this would be a popular enough board for it to be a
burden for someone to "okay" membership. I don't know if it's even
possible, but if it were, we could have one's member number as an
activation code or something to keep people from registering and
spamming. I can't imagine what else would be a problem, the GSAS
isn't exactly 4chan or another big board/group that would be "at risk"
for a hack.
Laurel
On Mar 6, 2008, at 7:58 PM, macker wrote:
> As a security professional and Vice President of the Puget Sound
> ISSA, are
> you also going to install the almost daily patches for all these PHP
> bulletin boards to help prevent abuse of the computing resources?
>
> I say screw it, its too much trouble. I don't mind email, and gmail
> threads
> them anyways.
>
> - macker
>
> On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Laurel Larsen <laurelthequeen@gmail.com
> >
> wrote:
>
>> I'd be willing to help out moderating if it's needed. I work as a
>> receptionist in the afternoons and most of my time is spent writing
>> papers for school and surfing the internet waiting for calls.
>>
>> -Laurel
>> On Mar 6, 2008, at 3:29 PM, Berg wrote:
>>
>>> Well if we decide to go down the road of setting up a forum I have a
>>> lot of
>>> experience setting up phpbb and Gallery so I can help out if needed.
>>>
>>> Later,
>>> Berg
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 3:05 PM, Bryan Nichols
>>> <b_monius_funk@yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I agree about the "feeling like I'm spamming" argument. A forum
>>>> would
>>>> eliminate that for me.
>>>>
>>>> I really don't think that moderating a forum would be difficult. It
>>>> only
>>>> takes a few individuals to make sure everything stays family
>>>> friendly. With
>>>> a group like this, I don't think we'll get into flame wars anyway.
>>>> My wife
>>>> moderates a forum and I'd be willing to moderate a GSAS forum along
>>>> with
>>>> some help if one ever materialized.
>>>>
>>>> Clifford Miller <clifford@clevergeek.com> wrote:
>>>> When I first joined up it seemed like it would be fun to have an
>>>> easy
>>>> place to permantently share photos. Two things I like about a
>>>> forum
>>>> (and/or gallery setup) are that:
>>>>
>>>> 1) Some members might post more often to a forum than a list so
>>>> they don't
>>>> feel like they're spamming everyone.
>>>>
>>>> 2) mailing lists (that lack attachment abilities) encourage text
>>>> linking
>>>> from free photo-sharing sites for sharing pictures or files. In my
>>>> experience, most of the things linked in list archives have long
>>>> since
>>>> gone missing as accounts expire or things get deleted or moved.
>>>> Even if
>>>> you find what you're looking for in the archives, if it's not a
>>>> part of
>>>> the message text, it's probably gone.
>>>>
>>>> If anyone would be interested, it would be pretty trival (a
>>>> couple of
>>>> clicks) to add a forum or gallery setup to my existing web host,
>>>> and since
>>>> the account already has more storage and transfer than I'll ever
>>>> use, it
>>>> wouldn't cost the group anything.
>>>>
>>>> I couldn't volunteer myself to police a forum or gallery full-
>>>> time or
>>>> anything, but as has been said, there isn't really any existing
>>>> moderation
>>>> going on now, so there probably wouldn't be all that much needed?
>>>>
>>>> Just offering options...
>>>>
>>>> Cliff
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 5 Mar 2008, Laurel Larsen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> but I find forums to be a little more cohesive not only than the
>>>>>> mailing list, but also the archive, it's easier to share photos
>>>>>
>>>>> That is true about the photos. The same scheme that keeps this
>>>>> list
>>>>> spam-free also is (for better or worse) what keeps us photo-free.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, it does make me think... we could open it up to allow
>>>>> small
>>>> photo
>>>>> attachments (jpeg only, say 200k total per e-mail?). It means
>>>>> that
>>>> those
>>>>> e-mails would be larger when photos are attached. Those
>>>>> subscribed to
>>>> the
>>>>> digest would not get the photos, but they would be available in
>>>>> the
>>>>> archive. If anyone has an opinion one way or another, e-mail me
>>>>> privately... it would be easy to do this on a trial basis and turn
>>>>> it
>>>> back
>>>>> off if it got out of hand.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> registration could be filtered allowing only members to
>>>>>> register(with
>>>>>> their member number).
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a bit more tricky, because it requires synchronizing of
>>>>> the
>>>>> database with the forum, or someone to moderate subscribe
>>>>> requests, etc.
>>>>> Much like public radio, we don't actually keep non-members off
>>>>> this
>>>> list,
>>>>> theory being that it may encourage them to come to a meeting or an
>>>>> auction, or even (gasp) join!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I understand that most forums require moderation, but there is
>>>>>> none on
>>>>>> the mailing list and I have yet to see crazy arguments, rants or
>>>>>> death
>>>>>> threats.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's not so much the discussions getting out of hand as the
>>>> opportunistic
>>>>> spam bots and other completely unrelated junk that shows up. It's
>>>> really
>>>>> nice that this list has essentially had no spam on it for going on
>>>>> nine
>>>>> years now. Over on the AGA forum, until we added a customized
>>>>> 'plant
>>>>> quiz' to the registration (something I had to custom-code), we
>>>>> were
>>>>> getting 2-5 messages a day posted for Cell phone accessories,
>>>> prescription
>>>>> drugs, and other inappropriate topics. And they're all posted by
>>>> robots,
>>>>> so they never stop.
>>>>>
>>>>>> It's merely an idea that
>>>>>> I thought I'd throw out there since many other regional clubs
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> forums. :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Definitely -- don't stop with the ideas!
>>>>>
>>>>> - Erik
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Erik Olson
>>>>> erik at thekrib dot com
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