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Re: [GSAS-Member] Feeler - Tanganyika Tank
Clifford - I'd be happy to let you have the fish, but I don' t think
that they'll be happy at all in this tank. The dietary needs of the
tanganyika fish that I keep are vastly different from the dietary
needs of the mbuna, and the rambunctiousness of the mbuna would likely
stress the fish out quite severely. In addition to that, the julie
would be fighting for territory with the mbuna, and likely would lose
the fight due to being much smaller and not as sturdy. The multies may
do ok because they have shells, but you'd likely not get anything out
of them due to them being scared, they probably also wouldn't get any
food before the mbuna wolfed it down. I personally wouldn't put them
in my 75 gallon mbuna tank which is pretty peaceful. I'm not saying
that it's a terrible idea to try, but the multies would be happy in a
10 gallon tank if you have a spare, and I could probably pawn off the
extra julie on someone else.
I believe the cyno you have is a White Top Hara. I believe that the
more commonly accepted genus for the zebra that you have is
Metriclima, here's a link to the metriclima portion of the cichlid-
forum profiles http://cichlid-forum.com/profiles/results.php?genus=124
for more information.
On Jul 1, 2008, at 5:05 PM, Clifford Miller wrote:
> Mostly rocks and najas covered in detritus...
>
> ...but there are also 4 species of cichlids-- three malowi mbuna's,
> Pseudotropheus saulosi, Cynotilapia sp. (my guess- they were labled
> "w.t.
> hera", Maylandia zebra (my guess- they were just labled "BB Nhkata
> Bay"
> (which I'm assuming is supposed to be "Nkhata")), and one Tanganyika
> species, Neolamprologus pulcher.
>
> So far I haven't had any fighting, but the P. saulosi and M. zebras
> seem
> to be picking up their breeding colors and establishing
> territories...and
> there isn't a lot of terratory to be had in a 50gallon.
>
> Attached are a few horrible pictures...they don't ever really stop.
>
> Cliff
>
>
>
>> Cliff - just out of curiosity, what do you house in your cichlid
>> tank?
>> On Jul 1, 2008, at 8:19 AM, Clifford Miller wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Laural,
>>>
>>> I can't really house another tank right now, but I have space for
>>> the
>>> multies, and would love to try them out in my Cichlid tank. I'd
>>> also be
>>> glad to throw in some cash since they're cool, I've been wanting
>>> some, and
>>> I can't take the tank.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Cliff
>>>
>>>
>>>> I'm sure you've all seen photos of my 29 gallon Tanganyika cube.
>>>> Between being busy with school and work and other things going on
>>>> in
>>>> my life, I don't really have the time or energy to take care of
>>>> this
>>>> tank as well as I should anymore. The fish in it are all happy, 3
>>>> full-grown and 2 juvenile Lamprologus Multifasciatus, and a single
>>>> full grown julidochromis transcriptus. Multies are interesting to
>>>> watch shell-dwelling fish. They live in colonies that span several
>>>> generations and they all pitch in to protect and help raise the
>>>> latest
>>>> brood. They're also the smallest cichlid as far as I know and
>>>> fairly
>>>> prolific spawners if they get a diet high enough in protein.
>>>> Julidochromis Transcriptus are also very cool fish. They're rock
>>>> dwelling cichlids that are shaped sort of like submarines. They
>>>> orient not based on gravity, but based on planes, so it's not
>>>> uncommon
>>>> to find a julie hovering under a rock, upside down, or sideways.
>>>> Here
>>>> are links to the "profiles" of each of the 2 fish, but the crappy
>>>> shots don't do the fish justice. Multies have beautiful tinges of
>>>> green and yellow in their fins and above their bodies, and julies
>>>> have
>>>> great rings of blue around their fins.
>>>> http://cichlid-forum.com/profiles/species.php?id=1749
>>>> http://cichlid-forum.com/profiles/species.php?id=1536
>>>>
>>>> The tank is an Oceanic Biocube 29 gallon "all-in-one" type of a
>>>> tank
>>>> which makes an excellent show tank. We paid $470 for it and the
>>>> matching stand just over 6 months ago at Denny's Pet World. I
>>>> believe
>>>> that it was designed as a "nanocube" style reef tank, but it does
>>>> excellently as a freshwater tank. There is a built in trickle
>>>> style
>>>> wet/dry sump filter in the back, and the hood houses 2 36watt
>>>> compact
>>>> flourescent bulbs. In the hood are an actinic(420nm?) and a
>>>> 10,000k,
>>>> but I also have a 6,700k bulb still in the packaging if you want to
>>>> grow high light plants. When the regular lights are off(they're
>>>> controllable separately), there is a single blue LED for "moon
>>>> lighting" so you can watch your fish's nocturnal habits without
>>>> harassing them too much. I have a 250 watt visitherm
>>>> stealthheater(yeah, a little overkill, but also very reliable) too,
>>>> that's positioned in the filter area so the only equipment that can
>>>> be
>>>> seen is the powerhead outlet. The glass and black plastic
>>>> background
>>>> are in perfect shape, no scratches that I've been able to see.
>>>> The
>>>> glass is cool too, because the whole viewing area is seamless. The
>>>> stand comes with 2 timers
>>>>
>>>> The tank is fully cycled, has no disease and all-around looks nice,
>>>> but I've had trouble finding an algae-eater to keep the tank super
>>>> spick & span, so there's a little algae growth. There are about 15
>>>> lbs of black 3m Colorquartz in the tank, as well as about 30lbs of
>>>> black limestone rocks, and probably 7-10 java ferns(they have algae
>>>> on
>>>> their leaves in some spots)
>>>>
>>>> I'd prefer that the fish go with the tank, but of course that's
>>>> not a
>>>> requirement, especially if you're not going to give them the water
>>>> parameters that they need. I keep them around pH 8.6 with very
>>>> hard
>>>> water. It's not difficult, even with Seattle's notoriously soft
>>>> water, you just add some buffer(of which I'd be willing to provide
>>>> you
>>>> with a fair bit to get you started) dissolved in some water when
>>>> you
>>>> are filling the tank back up.
>>>>
>>>> I'd like $350 for the tank with the stand, the decorations, timers,
>>>> heater, extra bulb, digital thermometer, teeny tiny magfloat and
>>>> everything else. The fish are free. If you want the tank and not
>>>> the
>>>> fish, but the fish haven't gotten a new home yet, tough luck,
>>>> this is
>>>> the only suitable place I have to keep them. If you want the fish
>>>> without the tank, come get them in Mountlake Terrace.
>>>>
>>>> Here are some shots of the tank and fish
>>>> http://s58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/Laurelthequeen/Fish%20Tank/29%20Gallon%20Cube/?action=view¤t=DSCF4581.jpg
>>>> http://s58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/Laurelthequeen/Fish%20Tank/29%20Gallon%20Cube/?action=view¤t=DSCF4602.jpg
>>>> http://s58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/Laurelthequeen/Fish%20Tank/29%20Gallon%20Cube/?action=view¤t=DSCF4836.jpg
>>>> http://s58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/Laurelthequeen/Fish%20Tank/29%20Gallon%20Cube/?action=view¤t=DSCF5840PP.jpg
>>>>
>>>> http://www.oceanicsystems.com/assets/006/12538_400wh.jpg
>>>> http://www.oceanicsystems.com/products/biocube.php
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