On the subject of deterring raccoons, here is a personally tailored add courtesy of Google. http://www.nixalite.com/scarecrow.aspx?gclid=COGlh8CwwZQCFRMYagod6xmJFg On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 10:15 PM, Linda Knapp <linda@bozuk.org> wrote: > I wonder if they where really raccoons or sea otters? I was at the > marina in Port Townsend once, We had caught a 60 pound Halibut and > the bones and what not was out in the cockpit in a garbage bag. Just > as we where heading to sleep a couple sea otters came on board and > drug off the bag. I managed to get the bag out of the water with the > main part of the skeleton and put it in a bucket in a hold to dump out > in the deeper water the next day. The otters came back and where quite > unhappy.... But they did get a share anyway. > Cute buggers - I like them better than raccoons even though they can > get onboard and mess up things a lot. > > Linda > > On Jul 14, 2008, at 1:19 PM, Betty Goetz wrote: > > > I'll be honest, those 50g stock tanks are pretty shallow. They > > looked like > > raccoon wading pools to me (weak grin). I 'might' get one for bog > > plants > > but I don't think I'll be putting fish in. I didn't think they were > > deep > > enough to provide any 'cover' for a fish trying to evade raccoon > > paws so I > > passed and got a larger tank. The 75g looks like the smallest at > > DeYoungs > > that might be good for fish, especially in raccoon country. > > > > Maybe it's all the Siberian husky smell, but I never had any > > evidence in > > 19 years of raccoons going for my goldfish at my old place. I never > > had > > space for stock tanks there, so used something similar in size to > > whiskey > > barrels and they were mostly placed near my front porch where they > > dogs > > spent plenty of time. And I did have plenty of evidence that they had > > discovered my chicken coop...about 100' up on the hill from the > > house! My > > dogs never went up into poultry territory (except for the occasional > > Siberian chicken raid), hence no dog smell deterrent. > > > > My coworkers have plenty of stories of raccoons swimming out to > > anchored > > sailboats in the San Juans, climbing up the anchor line and breaking > > into > > locked cabinets for food (and pooping all over deck), so I think a > > determined raccoon needs something more substantial than netting, > > but I > > have no personal experience to fall on here. > > > > Betty Goetz - relying on Siberian husky power and DEEP stock tanks to > > protect my goldies > > > >> I just got a little pond - thanks to Betty for suggesting the stock > >> tanks > >> at DeYoungs and Susan for the pond scoops! All good, but the > >> problem > >> is: I have never in the four years I have been living here seen a > >> raccoon > >> in my neighborhood, until last night!! The pond has been on the > >> deck two > >> days and they are already visiting it; I couldn't believe it. > >> > >> Does netting over a small pond keep them out of it? It is only a > >> shallow > >> 50 gallon stock tank (about 12 inches deep), but it does have steep > >> sides; > >> is that enough to deter them or should I cover the tank/pond with > >> some > >> sort of netting?? There are just tadpoles in there now, but I > >> definitely > >> want to put fish in it soon, and don't want it to become the > >> neighborhood > >> raccoon feeder. > >> > >> Thanks, Connie > >> (who has been learning a TON from all these great discussions!) > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Tom Watson<mailto:onefish2fish@comcast.net> > >> To: 'Greater Seattle Aquarium Society member > >> chat'<mailto:gsas-member@thekrib.com> > >> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:02 AM > >> Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] pond discussions > >> > >> > >> What keeps raccoons out of ponds are steep sides. They can't put > >> a paw > >> in > >> the shallows to brace themselves when leaning out to snatch fish. A > >> shelf > >> along the edge would provide that place to brace themselves. > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: > >> gsas-member-bounces@thekrib.com<mailto:gsas-member-bounces@thekrib.com > >> > > >> [mailto:gsas-member-bounces@thekrib.com] On Behalf Of Betty Goetz > >> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:17 AM > >> To: Greater Seattle Aquarium Society member chat > >> Subject: [GSAS-Member] pond discussions > >> > >> Thanks for the pond discussions! I worked on my 2 larger stock tanks > >> this > >> weekend. I wish my goldies would decide that Azolla tastes as good > >> as > >> duckweed! I'm wondering if anyone has seen something that might > >> work on > >> a > >> stock pond edge to help grow marginals or bog plants? > >> Hmmmmm....maybe > >> those plastic planters they make for deck railings??????? I really > >> don't > >> want to fill up the edges with cement blocks to make staging zones > >> for > >> pots. > >> > >> Trish....your 4 goldies are doing great. They do seem to like flakes > >> better than floating pellets but are getting the hang of the things. > >> They > >> are spending less time hanging out in the holes of the cement brick > >> tower > >> I put in one end to stage some parrotfeather pots. Larry...thanks > >> from > >> bring them up north for me! I know I wouldn't have made it down to > >> Enumclaw! > >> > >> Raccoons & outdoor ponds - so far I've lucked out. All of my ponds > >> are > >> above ground, which may help. Having lots of Siberian husky smell > >> (including one determined male who likes to mark the sides of stock > >> ponds) > >> may help as well. I KNOW I've got raccoons around at the new place > >> as > >> the > >> neighbors have warned me. The chickens get locked in at night (weak > >> grin). > >> > >> Betty Goetz > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> GSAS-Member mailing list > >> GSAS-Member@thekrib.com<mailto:GSAS-Member@thekrib.com> > >> http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member< > http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member > >> > > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> GSAS-Member mailing list > >> GSAS-Member@thekrib.com<mailto:GSAS-Member@thekrib.com> > >> http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member< > http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > >> GSAS-Member mailing list > >> GSAS-Member@thekrib.com > >> http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > GSAS-Member mailing list > > GSAS-Member@thekrib.com > > http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member > > _______________________________________________ > GSAS-Member mailing list > GSAS-Member@thekrib.com > http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member > -- -Bryan _______________________________________________ GSAS-Member mailing list GSAS-Member@thekrib.com http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member