Re: [GSAS-Member] Legal or Illegal?

["Connie Carlson" <nwconniec@hotmail.com>]

Ah, excellent logic on a difficult subject for me.  I don't want to be 
confronted, legal or illegal, it is true; and you are right about who would do 
so in the first place.  I did see one couple while carrying my bucket to the 
car; threw out the old - pond water, doing an experiment - explanation, and got 
nothing but benign (albeit puzzled) smiles back.  Now if a park ranger had been 
there...   Actually I think I would have tried the same line...

Will have to stick to the water container idea and carry ziplocs in a slightly 
bigger backpack in the future.  And learn some local taxonomy...

Thanks Steev!
CC


----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Steev Ward<mailto:steevward@yahoo.com> 
  To: Greater Seattle Aquarium Society member 
chat<mailto:gsas-member@thekrib.com> 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 11:20 PM
  Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] Legal or Illegal?


  Using some backwards logic on this matter I look at it this way: Right or 
wrong you
  wouldn't want to get a ticket for something like that. So you want to avoid a
  confrontation.  The only people who would confront you are people who think 
that you
  are doing something improper or at least suspicious. Therefore you want to 
avoid any
  suspicion about what you are doing. See that anything living that you collect 
is in
  small amounts and carried discretely, maybe in a little zip-loc stuck in your 
pocket.
  Then there's nothing to talk about. Water itself is best kept in a beverage 
container
  like a juice bottle or a thermous.  A person with a dog should certainly be 
able to
  carry water around without scrutiny. Generally speaking you can collect water 
with
  organisms that are not readily visible and make up any story you want to not 
be
  bothered.

  I'm not suggesting that anybody do bad things. I'm just saying that a little 
discretion
  avoids lengthy explanations. Nobody cares about a person with a sprig of 
plants in a
  cup. So make it easy on everybody and don't do things that might appear 
objectionable. 

  In saltwater things are different. There is a law that allows people to 
collect a small
  number of marine organisms (except protected and game species) without a 
permit. The
  department of fish and Wildlife knows this regulation, but I don't know where 
to find
  it. It specifies how many crabs and what kind, how many Moonsnails, how many 
anemones,
  etc. that a person can collect at one time. Then for Seaweed there's a permit 
required,
  but it is never enforced for "negligible" amounts, like a handful. Only once 
have I
  been stopped on a beach for colecting. A F&W agent wanted to know what I was 
hauling in
  two full five gallon buckets. It was just sea-water, to both our relief.

  Steev


  --- Connie Carlson <nwconniec@hotmail.com<mailto:nwconniec@hotmail.com>> 
wrote:

  > Ah Ha!  Thanks Tom.  That got me, after a Google search, to a great website 
by WA
  > State: 
  > 
  >
  
http://www.ecy.wa.gov/Programs/wq/plants/weeds/<http://www.ecy.wa.gov/Programs/wq/plants/weeds/<http://www.ecy.wa.gov/Programs/wq/plants/weeds/%3Chttp://www.ecy.wa.gov/Programs/wq/plants/weeds/>>
  >   - exactly what I was looking for.
  > 
  > And you are right, I most definitely found some Eurasian milfoil.  Rats.  I 
was
  > hoping for something native.  I will make sure none of it escapes alive 
from where I
  > have it.
  > 
  > I did get a couple different species in the scoop; will do my best to 
figure out what
  > they are.  In the daylight that is; it is late!
  > 
  > So then the next question to you Tom is this:  is it legal to transport 
native
  > aquatic species??  Once I can find and identify the natives, can I go get 
them
  > legally?
  > 
  > Thanks,
  > Connie
  >   -----


        
  _______________________________________________
  GSAS-Member mailing list
  GSAS-Member@thekrib.com<mailto:GSAS-Member@thekrib.com>
  
http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member<http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member>
_______________________________________________
GSAS-Member mailing list
GSAS-Member@thekrib.com
http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member