Cliff, I am fairly certain they are Pacific Tree Frogs. I compared them to images on the web. A good match. Here's a good web site I found: http://bss.sfsu.edu/holzman/courses/Fall01%20projects/regilla.htm.htm -----Original Message----- From: gsas-member-bounces@thekrib.com [mailto:gsas-member-bounces@thekrib.com] On Behalf Of Clifford Miller Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 10:18 AM To: Greater Seattle Aquarium Society member chat Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] Sept Auction.... tadpole question It would be awesome if they turned out to be Northern spotted (which I used to catch as a kid, and I'm big on nostalgia) or reg-legged frogs, but my bet is still on Pacific Tree/Chorus Frog. From what I understand the Pacific is the most common in our area, and being that they were in a temporary water source, something that tends to range from water sources seems likely. They also lack some of the brighter patterning of some of the other types. I think there are 8 or 9 species in WA, with some careful observation someone could probably ID them with this key: http://www.pwrc.usgs.gov/tadpole/default.htm. (although I tried and failed =) ). I'm sorry to say I don't think he'll get to watch these eat a mouse-- the nursery these came from also had bullfrog tadpoles, which were easy to tell because they were huge by comparison. Significantly more than twice as long, and far greater in mass. Cliff > Anyone starting a pool for which species we have? My older son is hoping > they are bullfrogs because he heard bullfrogs eat mice and would like to > see a frog eat a mouse. > > - Erik > > On Sun, 7 Sep 2008, Clifford Miller wrote: > >> >> I don't think you need to worry yet. None of the ones in my outdoor >> pond >> (which are also with a bunch of Steev's koi) are showing any sign of >> changing over, and they pretty much constantly graze on the algae. The >> few remaining indoor tadpoles seem to eat fish flakes and crushed >> pellets >> with at every feeding, and a few are showing swelling near the base of >> the >> tail, which I would assume means legs will soon be starting to show. >> >> The largest ones here are probably 2" or so, but there are still a >> number >> that are smaller than that. >> >> Cliff >> >> >>> Speaking of tadpoles, mine are starting to worry me - no legs, fore or >>> aft, >>> on any of them! Seems like I should at least be seeing SOME >>> change/growth.... Am I starving them or something, is the water in >>> the >>> house too warm, do they not like being in with koi, or something else? >>> >>> I am quite puzzled. They need to go outside soon... >>> Connie >>> >>> >>> ----Original Message Follows---- >>> From: Erik Olson <erik@thekrib.com> >>> >>> ......but we really like the tads you gave >>> us. :) >>> >>> - Erik >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> GSAS-Member mailing list >>> GSAS-Member@thekrib.com >>> http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> GSAS-Member mailing list >> GSAS-Member@thekrib.com >> http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member >> > > -- > Erik Olson > erik at thekrib dot com > _______________________________________________ > GSAS-Member mailing list > GSAS-Member@thekrib.com > http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member > _______________________________________________ GSAS-Member mailing list GSAS-Member@thekrib.com http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member _______________________________________________ GSAS-Member mailing list GSAS-Member@thekrib.com http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member