I have several indoor tads that are changing over. The ones outside are still tiny, and don't appear to have even started. Some species change in a matter of weeks, some take months (I think the chorus frogs tend to take a matter of months, on average). I'm no frog expert, but I've read many sources that site their ability to kick things into high gear if they're losing their habitat, something that frequently happens with a frog of this type that can range so far from a water source. Losing their water source or having conditions go south is the number one cause of mortality for this type of frog. If the puddle or seasonal pond the tads are in begins to dry up, that can stimulate the change. If you're doing water changes and providing lots of food, they're presumably pre-programmed to take advantage of the great conditions for as long as possible and give them the best chance of becoming happy little frogs. If you're anxious for frogs, you might try draining some of the water, and stopping filtration (if there aren't also fish). My outdoor tads look nearly exactly the same as when I got them, virtually no growth or change...which makes me think either this batch was too late in the season to survive in our native conditions, or that the tads may overwinter and change next season? (pure speculation) I was thinking of cross posting this on the PNHS forums...I've seen some posts there regarding these guys before (even a blue variety from the tacoma area?), maybe someone there would have some insight? Cliff > 3"+ and still growing. We're getting a bit worried here... > > -- > Erik Olson > erik at thekrib dot com_______________________________________________ > GSAS-Member mailing list > GSAS-Member@thekrib.com > http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member > _______________________________________________ GSAS-Member mailing list GSAS-Member@thekrib.com http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member