Re: [GSAS-Member] frogs?

["Susan Welenofsky" <welenofsky@comcast.net>]

There was just a special on Animal Planet I think about frogs. The
yellow-legged frog in the mountains of California is dying due to a fungus
which is thickening their skin.

Susan

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[mailto:gsas-member-bounces@thekrib.com] On Behalf Of Kathy Olson
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 10:06 PM
To: Greater Seattle Aquarium Society member chat
Subject: Re: [GSAS-Member] frogs?


Connie,

I had to laugh when I read your post about the frogs.

Erik and I were talking tonight and wondered if we had a minature bullfrog 
version.  They are still tiny, eating lots of flies and crickets.

Markus talked me out of bath tonight just so he could stay up and watch 
them eat the fruitflies he fed them.

By the way if anyone needs some M. Hydei (or whatever the name is on the 
large flightless fruit flies) we have an abundance right now and certainly 
could give some to anyone wanting to start a culutre.  Just come on by 
asap.  We are now feeding the frogs flies twice a day from two cultures 
and the flies numbers show no sign of decreasing.  (now that compared to 
last week when I had to buy crickets to feed because we didn't have 
enought flies, I will stagger cultures more next time).

I did just check the website, and so far they are looking like 
bullfrogs...but it is amazing how close some of the species are. 
http://www.californiaherps.com/noncal/northwest/nwfrogs/nwfrogs.html

I have had some folks say the only difference between bullfrogs and green 
frogs is the ridge.  Leopard frogs/red legged frogs...etc I think have 
dropped off the list.

Still interesting to see and talk about.  Great education for the kids. 
They now know about good frogs and bad frogs and why they could never be 
let go.

In the meantime they are quite determinded to keep "midget" Markus' frog 
and "bat frog", or the latest name "scrunch bat frog" Isaaks frog as along 
as possible.
We have a total of 6 in the tank.  Two lighter color morphs and 4 that are 
almost black with mottled bellies. Interesting.

Keep me informed what all of you guys think they are?

Kathy

ps...the boys didn't like the idea of eating them, but they were quite 
amendable to finding a local establishment with herons or large frog 
eating birds as an option.

On Tue, 18 Nov 2008, Connie Carlson wrote:

> So Shango,
>
> What do your fry look like so far, and how big are they?  Mine are still
> growing like weeds and continue to morph their color patterns.  The one of
> mine that got its mugshot in the newsletter due to his extreme white
> coloring is now only about 1/3 to 1/2 white, and has a nice blaze of
orange
> and a blaze of black over the dorsal aspect.  He/she is definitely the
most
> colorful to date of my brood, although the outside ones I havent seen in a
> bit.  The koi are still a source of entertainment in my waters...  ;+)
>
> At the risk of beating a dead thread beyond even the remotest of interest,
> my crazy frog/froglets/tads still continue to amuse me too.  I find it
very
> odd that they seem to be able to decide when to morph.  How could it be
that
> only one of my 4 has emerged and is eating fruit flies/crickets, another
has
> some serious back legs but no fronts, and the other two are still
completely
> tads? Very weird!  They have been good for the algae but not surprisingly
> the algae is growing faster than they can eat it; time for some peroxide
it
> seems.  And just for the record, if these are bullfrogs I will eat them
> myself; that cricket-eater is a pipsqueak and if he is a bullfrog I might
> have the smallest bullfrog ever measured!  Have we figured out what they
are
> yet?
>
> This may be a less-than-intelligent question, and I think it is primarily
> directed at Tom so sorry if it is Tom, but is that one ounce of H2O2 per
10
> gallons of actual water or the rating of the tank?  In other words, would
I
> be risking overdosing if I put in about 3 ounces for a 29 gallon tank,
even
> though when I filled it the first time I only put in 23 gallons?  And
> less-than-intelligent question #2 - can I use a shot glass as an accurate
> enough measure of one ounce?  I dont think I have anything else around
that
> has that volume calibrated!
>
> OK, I think I have used up my dumb comment and question quotas for the
> year...
>
> Cheers,
> Connie
>
>
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