Brilliant. Again, you teach me something I didn't even know enough to consider, Laurel. Thanks to you too, Macker. On 2/17/09 7:54 PM, "Laurel Larsen" <laurelthequeen@gmail.com> wrote: > What likely happened is that you stirred up a great deal of detritus > that had either formed anaerobic pockets or just hadn't made it's way > through the nitrogen cycle, and you had a huge ammonia spike. You > should consider testing your water for ammonia and nitrites to see if > you have ANYTHING registering. A properly cycled tank(with an intact > nitrogen cycle) shouldn't have readings of ANY ammonia or nitrite. > Such readings would indicate that stuff that shouldn't have been in > the water column was. Heavy breathing is symptomatic of ammonia > poisoning in fish. You may consider dropping the tank temperature to > the low range and slowly dropping the pH as much as is safe. Ammonia > is less deadly at lower pH. Do some reading on old tank syndrome and > be careful when stirring up detritus. It's one of the reason that I > switched to sand in my tank, poo cannot settle between grains of sand. > > On Feb 17, 2009, at 7:35 PM, Shango Los wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I did a serious clean one of my community tanks last night. During >> that >> cleaning, the water churned A LOT. It became thick with sludge >> (what is the >> word for it? Moosh? Melsh?) Unfortunately, the White Clouds and >> Guppies >> began to have difficulty breathing I realized. Today, I see that I >> lost 3 >> fish overnight and one more is heavy breathing . I had no idea that >> the >> thick water could be THAT bad for the fish. >> >> Has this ever happened to anyone else? Where should one draw the >> line with >> churning the water? How can one avoid this? Is this worse with >> small fish? >> >> Anything folks have to offer I¹d like to hear. I don't want to >> cause this >> suffering again. >> >> Thanks >> >> Shango >> >> _______________________________________________ >> GSAS-Member mailing list >> GSAS-Member@thekrib.com >> http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member > > _______________________________________________ > GSAS-Member mailing list > GSAS-Member@thekrib.com > http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member > -- Shango Los ::Development:: Listing and Marketing Specialist, Partner Alchemy Real Estate Marketing and Development ::Internet:: Fourthfold Visions, LLC www.OutdoorLovemap.com :: Fine Art Portfolio:: www.ShangoLos.com ::Twitter:: https://twitter.com/shangolos _______________________________________________ GSAS-Member mailing list GSAS-Member@thekrib.com http://lists.thekrib.com/mailman/listinfo/gsas-member